Corona Virus Treatment

I think the thing to remember is this: the person who has the jab, be it for flu or for covid, becomes immune to infection. It stands to reason therefore that if that person cannot catch the flu or the covid then, should they be exposed to it, they obviously cannot pass it on to somebody else.

Having the jab should be seen as a generous, selfless thing to do, done with the aim of protecting others, not a personal, selfish one done to protect oneself alone.

 

But covid and flu jabs don't stop people from catching it Tidemark, or passing it on to others. The jabs are pointless and a lot of people are realising it, which is why the uptake is falling.

 

You can still catch them but it's less severe.

 

It has to be personal choice, I really dont like that kind of arm twisting that went on during covid.
If other people dont want to catch it then they must take the required action.

 

I would generally agree wit that @Sheal.
I only want to share what our sister-in-law from LA said, recently visiting us. She told us that the new Covid version seems to be as worse as the 2020 version. The US is some weeks ahead of it from us in Europe, and she said that if you get it, be prepared, it's not nice, and coughing, coughing, coughing for weeks!
She works at a hospital and got it from there. In particular, it didn't make her immune. She got it 3 weeks later again and then again.

While the jabs might lower the impact of a virus, I would suggest to find out first if the current Covid vaccine is made for this new version or still the last year's version. If latter is the case, there is no sense in taking this years vaccine because the new version is different. It's no longer that fading out version from 2020, which no longer caused harm last year apart from a few days feeling a light version of flu for everybody in younger age. But it can still cause trouble for elderly.
Last year, I gave my virus, caught on a bus to Heathrow or air-plane, to my family, and my dad (89) ended up in hospital for 2 weeks, whereas I had just symptoms of feeling tired for just 36 hours.

The best way to protect yourself is by avoiding crowds and sitting too long in close spaces, if possible. What all these Covid virus versions had in common is that you need to be exposed for more than just a short moment rushing through a supermarket.

 

So vaccination doesn’t stop the spread of disease. Tell the Staffordshire Wildlife Trust they’re wasting their time then.


“The Trust believes that vaccination of badgers against bovine tuberculosis (bTB) is currently the most effective way of reducing the risk of badger to cattle transmission of the disease.”

 

The original information given out during covid was that the vaccine didn't stop you catching it, but it did make the symptoms less of a problem.
Whether that has changed or not I don't know.

I do know that polio and small pox have apparently been almost wiped out by the use of vaccine, covid and flu seem a bit different, maybe because they mutate every year or so.
I assume TB is fairly stable.

 

The rollout of the HPV vaccine has greatly reduced the incidence of cervical cancer in young women, according to Cancer Research UK.

But no-one has ever been able to create a vaccine for the common cold, because there are multiple viruses causing it and those viruses mutate.

So just because vaccines are ineffective for some conditions, doesn't mean we should never bother with them.

 

If it’s already been manufactured and is sitting in fridges,I’d rather it went into my arm than into landfill.

 

The XEC variant is too new for the vaccine to cover for it, but it is a covid variant and the vaccine should still prevent serious illness. @JWK is absolutely right in saying it s down to your choice.

 

Spotted this on the BBC later today...

Not too sure just how recent. We had left and right jabs today as we were informed when going in for our flu jab, there are free covid jabs as well - it was Pfizer.

 

With an intolerance to medicine I tend to avoid most of it. I had the first two covid jabs, against my better judgement as I was talked into them by my family. I was quite ill for two weeks after both. I caught covid last year and wasn't as unwell with that as the jabs. The only place I could have caught it was in a supermarket as I very rarely shop in other places and hadn't been anywhere else at the time. I still believe the best protection is a face mask and will resort, if necessary, to using those again if needs be. My daughter has had all the yearly covid jabs and has had covid three times.

I've not had flu for more than forty years so why bother with the jab knowing it will make me ill.

We are talking about human vaccines not wildlife or domestic animals here. Other vaccines like you have mentioned @Tidemark, whether for humans or animals are for identifiable diseases. These don't seem to have the different mutant strains that covid and flu have.

 

The Covid I have just had may have been a new strain possibly the Berlin strain as we had been in Germany and Austria and my immunity from the last jab has probably worn off but I will still have the new one soon as it could be worse without it.
Our son has had long covid for nearly two years and it is still as bad now, I would not refer to it as 'so called'

 

Indeed, Long Covid shouldn't be underestimated. That Covid virus has the habit to attack if not damage or destroy human cells. Once those cells are affected, there might be no way to recovery. A virus stays in the body, it just sleeps in the following years.

In 2011, OH came back from Berlin. Next day, while driving, OH said, "I don't know what it is but I get a muscle cramp in my thumb now and then", and showed the right hand. What can one say, I thought.
Would you take that seriously?
Next day, I woke up and felt awful. I couldn't sleep, and I started to get cramps on my back upwards, and my legs. I wasn't able to walk any stairs, had no sleep, as soon as I lied down, these cramps started.
I was so scared, I went to the surgery two days later. You can't call this walking, I dragged myself to the surgery.
The first doctor was useless, gave me antibiotics.
I tried to sleep at noon time, and I felt that the cramps affected now the entire back.
Back to the surgery, and I got my doctor this time. He gave me Diazepam and said, "if that virus attacks the muscles, don't move at all, Heart and lung are muscles, too".
To make it short, I was on sick leave for 3 weeks. I wasn't able to cycle for 5 months, and it took me 8 years before my leg muscles had recovered and I was able to cycle a hill up again. In these 8 years, my leg muscles felt like minced meat. Needless to say, I never recovered fully from that virus.
Who knows what that was, but whereas OH had just a cramp on the thumb tight, it almost killed me.

In other words, take any virus seriously and avoid getting it in the first place.