Planting a Bare Root Rose

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    I'm finding conflicting advice about this from various rose specialists - should you plant the bare root with the union at soil level or below soil level? Have you done either, or both, and which would you say is better? I'm inclined to plant at soil level, without burying the union. Also, how long would you soak the bare root before planting. Most say at least 2 hours, another says overnight which I think might be excessive. I'd welcome your thoughts. Thank you.
     
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    This is only the way that I plant bare root Roses there are no hard and fast rules in gardening as I always say "Rules are made to guide you not bind you"

    Good afternoon @Plantminded my friend for me I always bury the graft union when (2 - 3 inches)planting my roses reason being helps prevent wind rock and protects your Rose from cold temperatures.I am a firm believer that it can also encourage the Rose to grow its own roots and that helps make it a healthier plant and can reduce the growth of suckers as for soaking the bare root Rose I often leave mine to soak over night where it is practicable and I have seen them left to soak on one occasion for 5 days and still be alright, It has certainly worked well for me over the last 70 years as with many gardening topics I am sure the debate will continue.hope this is of some help to you:smile:
     
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      Thank you @wiseowl, that’s very helpful. I like that quote “Rules are made to guide you not bind you” but your 70 years’ experience has reassured me!
       
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        @Plantminded , I’ve recently planted two bare root roses and buried the union as suggested by David Austin. Have never planted bare roots before so we shall see what occurs ….
        Soaked them for about three hours first. Also used mycorrhizal fungi.
         
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          Thank you @Bluejayway, I soaked mine for about two hours and buried the union too. I also used mycorrhizal fungi which seems to make sense! I’ve planted other bare root shrubs and perennials before without any problem so they should be fine, we hope! Good luck with yours :).
           
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            Thanks @Plantminded , we’ll have to compare notes next year:fingers crossed:
             
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              Plantminded, Charlie Dimmock would also add banana peel under it as it the Victorians did, because bananas are high in potassium.
              Monty Don also planted the onion under soil.
               
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                That’s interesting @simone_in_wiltshire, thank you. I didn’t include any fertiliser in the planting hole as the potassium in it evidently inhibits the mycorrhizal fungi. Not straightforward this gardening :biggrin:.​
                 
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                  I always plant deep, burying the union by a few inches. Has always been successful so far :)
                   
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                    I'm always looking for cheap alternatives :smile:
                    I didn't know that that fungi thing has got Potassium.:doh:
                     
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                    I don’t think the mycorrhizal fungi contains potassium @simone_in_wiltshire, the potassium in fertilisers evidently inhibits its relationship with the plant roots, according to what I’ve read!
                     
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                      Thank you @Loofah, that adds further reassurance :blue thumb:.
                       
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                        I've planted lots of roses in my garden in France and I don't use mycorrhizal fungi because they don't sell it anywhere near me. I dig a large hole and mix in a lot of compost, as I have heavy clay, and blood and bone, French version doesn't have fish. I bury the graft. I've had good results.
                         
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