Latest Moan From You and Me 2025

I agree, but so can individual land owners when they have planning permission on their land.
There is 0.75 hectare plot near me that has planning permission £550,000. Then there is a farm nearby with 44.38 hectares with buildings but excludes the old farmhouse £765,000 which works out at just under £13,000 per 0.75 a hectare. Based on the cost of the land that has planing permission, that farm land could be worth in excess of £30 million if it had planning permission

 

Where I live the houses were built after WW2, when there was a shortage of good housing.
The council employed about four or five local building companies to build the whole estate.
I assume money actually came from central government.

I'm sure this went on in other places as well.

Are we actually saying that the country is in a worse state, money wise, than it was after 6 yrs of war?

All the time we rely on private developers to come up with mass housing we are stuffed.
It is not in their interest to bring the price of houses down, and its happened in the past, as soon as prices drop they stop building and sit on land that they already own.

Some of the land around here that is finally getting built on has been in the hands of developers for more than 20 yrs.

 

Some land is sold to a developer without planning but could go for building in years to come or not go for building, the developer buys the land does all the paper work for getting it to the building stage and then sells off bits for deleopment, mean while the farmer still farm's the land and must keep it up together etc farmer get's paid a nice bit of money ie better an farm land price but not the full price that he/she would get if it got straight to planning, also there is option agrements where a developer paid a sum to farmer so they are in control of that land, put in for planning and if they get it then developer pay farmer for land, if it doesn't go for planning within the opion agrement time then farmer still holds the land and developer has loss a lot of money

 

We live just (and I mean only just) outside the delivery area for Ocado. This morning, on our way back from a walk, what should pass us but an Ocado van. SOOOo annoying …..
They were always our grocery delivery of choice before we moved

 

But its supply and demand, land has always been worth more with planning permission.

Under the new government planning permission is likely to be easier to get, so who knows what will happen.
I doubt the price will come down, there is an old horse meadow not far from me being sold off as building plots, I hate to think how much they are, but you can bet none of them will do anything to help the local housing shortage.

 

When put like that it sounds like China.

 

Have you checked outside for rubber boats before looking in the loft? You're in the right/wrong area

 

I don't recall 'land grab' and 'removing local councils' from the Labour manifesto. Shame really, as had they been in there we would know we were safe from it actually happening.

 

The island of the UK is already suffering from coastal erosion in various areas so you could say our land mass is gradually decreasing.
Whilst countries on large continents can, if they choose, extend their own borders by invasion, the UK is a bit stuck in that respect.
At some point, building ( whether it be housing /airport runways, rail and road extensions going nowhere ) will have to stop if the country wishes to retain suitable land for food production and to provide some natural green space .
I find it hard to believe that politicians of any colour are not aware of this but the latest lot, in particular, seem incapable of recognising the facts.
One can only assume that they are not too concerned about the future providing they don't have to actually deal with the outcome.

 

You have to go up. More people per square metre - the only way is up.

 

I think the problems all stem from increasing population and green issues.

Covering farmland in solar panels should be outlawed, likewise planting trees just as a means of offsetting carbon.
Plant trees yes, but in the right places.

 

@Philippa I don't live in the U.K. but in Great Britain. U.K. is just a title which I never use when addressing my/our homeland. When I lived on the Isle of Man it was addressed as the British Isles, not being part of the so called United Kingdom.

 

I use U.K. or United Kingdom a lot when online, but never use Great Britain. U.K. includes Northern Ireland. But when being precise I say England. It depends who's asking.