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  1. Kevin Cowans

    Kevin Cowans Super Gardener

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    Hello

    I just have to say that Openreach handle the Network Infrastructure, their Work would not affect individual Websites.

    If there was an Issue caused by Openreach then you would not have Any Internet Access.

    If Users are unable to Change their DNS Servers then the only course of action that would, possibly, Help is to Contact the ISP stating that there are Issues accessing certain Websites.

    Unfortunately, their response would probably be that the Issues lie with the individual Websites, it does not.

    Sorry, but having used I.T for 45 Years and being a Senior I.C.T Technician for 20 Years, I have seen this Issue on many occasions.

    I Hope that everyone finds a solution.

    Kevin
     
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      Jiffy The Match is on Fire

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      I'm with BT as well, what's all this about change DNS servers? as some people know all about this sort of thing, basic plain english please

      2 clicks to poast this

      after i posted this i swicht off the router & left for a few minutes and swicht back on, the same problem are still happening, not sure about other sited as i'm not on many but the ones i do use don't have the problems i get on GC

      If i'm on watched threads and click on new post it change's fast and back again but if i go to new posts and click on a thread thats went i have the problem and if i was in the watch threads and click on a thread that in there i have the same problem
       
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      Indeed, however it is those using Openreach based providers that seem to be having problems - I am on cable, and no issues showing at all.
       
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      Are you on an ipad, @Jiffy? I had exactly the problems you describe yesterday, which was just after the ipad update @Bluejayway mentioned. Today, so far, things have been better. I can quote, use smilies, press “reply” and my post actually loads, look at alerts without a 10 min wait, etc.
       
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        It’s been fine here, on desktop and iPad, via EE. (That should justify their price increase :biggrin:.)
         
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        NOt on ipad, main computer cable to router and some time i use a laptop over wifi but both are the same, i've just hoovered over the alert button and the drop down came up straight away
         
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          Hello @Fat Controller

          Openreach handle the Infrastructure.

          Each ISP does not have their own Infrastructure, they all use the Openreach Infrastructure.

          Can you imagine what it would be like if each and every ISP had their own Infrastructure.

          Any Issues lie with each ISP, i.e. DNS Servers, Time Servers, DHCP Servers etc.

          Cable, i.e. Virgin Media uses its own Infrastructure which is separate from Openreach hence why you have no Issues.

          I Hope this helps to clarify things.

          Kevin
           
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          DNS stands for Domain Name System, it's a bit like the old telephone directory. When you type a website name in e.g. gardenerscorner.co.uk the DNS looks up that name and finds a string of numbers (the IP address) this then provides the routing, like making a telephone call, to our forum. So if the computer running your DNS is not working you don't get a connection.

          There are different computers running DNS depending who provides your Internet connection, mine is Virgin and is running happily right now. Your OpenReach computer is not running reliably currently hence the glitches. You have no control over this, it will be a computer tucked away in a Data Centre, maybe in your county or could even be abroad. It is a complex web with many points that could fail.
           
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            I was aware, thank you Kevin and indeed, therein was my point - it is all of those who are on services/ISP's that use Openreach networks that are having the issues; others, such as EE and Virgin, are not.
             
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              Hello @Fat Controller

              I think, what needs to happen is that a User that is experiencing the Issues needs to try Changing their DNS Servers, it is the only way to prove, one way or the other, if it is a DNS Issue.

              Any suggestions as to who would be willing?

              Kevin
               
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              • pete

                pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                I've just done a speed test and I get about 5 different servers to choose from.
                Is it not possible to change the server which you are using for general viewing of the internet.
                 
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                A good idea indeed - trouble is, I am not sure who would be willing or able.
                 
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                This is exactly what Kevin is referring to - you can, either at your router or at your PC level. I've generally found it better to do at the router as that covers every client on the network.

                The really interesting thing is that it only seems to be GC that is being affected.
                 
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                • pete

                  pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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                  Just another stupid question.
                  But when doing the speed test I can change servers, does that change the server I'm using until I change it back again or does it only change for the speed test and then go back to the one it was originally using.
                   
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                  No - that is only the server you are communicating with at that point in time.

                  So, when you go to the likes of Speedtest.net, the DNS server that your PC/router is set to use will look up Speedtest.net in the directory and then connect your PC to the site based on the IP number it finds. Speedtest then lets you choose which server your PC sends packets of data to and from whilst it remains connected in parallel and basically 'watches' the results.

                  When you then navigate to any other site, you are back to your usual DNS server looking up the website address and connecting you with the IP address that it finds.
                   
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