Plant deterrent for nuisance children?

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  1. smoo

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    I need ideas for a thorny shrub or something of the same deterrent to plant along a shady fence where the neighbours feral children choose to use a bin and my car to climb over to retrieve their balls because there is a gap in the conifers on the other side, any ideas anyone?
    Failing that, i wonder if barbed wire would have the same effect? Or maybe nails screwed into the top of the fence??? ;)
     
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    Berberis? We have one and it's quite spiky.
     
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      In the absence of a sawn-off shotgun, what about a berberis?
       
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        Lol fidgetsmum! Yes maybe the presence of my other half and his air rifle would make them think twice about getting too close to my baby (car) ;) Berberis is a great idea, how high does it grow? The taller the better really, then they wouldn't be able to use the bin to get a leg up. That side of the fence really doesn't receive any direct sunlight though, is that a problem?

        I hear berberis is good for the wildlife too so great thinking guys!
        Grr doesn't it just make you mad though, it only takes one family doesn't it to ruin the street :(
         
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            Pyracantha also known as Firethorne can get to 18ft with some support... Very wildlife friendly..

            Also Japanese Quince or Flowering Japonica.. Another little beauty.. Wildlife friendly, but also the bare woody branches of the Japonica plant burst into beautiful blossom during the springtime months of March to May, most varieties have deep red flowers, but can also be pink or white. After flowering Japonica produces dark green leaves and small green or golden fruits in the autumn that can be used to make jelly and add extra flavours to apple pies :yummy: but you know the best thing of all are the very well hidden sneaky spikes on the branches :yess: about 3/4 of an inch long....!!!!!! :rofl:Boy do they hurt & it can grow to about 5m x 2.5 if you want just trim it to keep it in check they are as tough as old boots once established... :thumbsup:
             
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              Mahonia isn't to pleasant to fall into =] and is bomb proof
               
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              Thank you marley :) I don't need it to be that high but that's another great suggestion, thanks.

              Here's a picture guys so you can get the idea of what they are doing and the space i have available for a lovely thorny specimen, i was thinking of planting something in that wasted gravel space anyway but now i know i need something to keep the little terrors off my property.

              The fence is quite long but i can only plant about the width of my car, the rest of the neighbours cars park along there too!
               

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              Oh yes, we have a quince too, and that attacked me last weekend!
              Our berberis is about 5-6' high. Very pretty too. Don't know what variety it is, but it's got reddish brown leaves, and very pretty flowers.
               
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              Either the Berberis, Pyracantha or the Japonica would do equally well there I think so would a Holly.. So would a Mahonia kept pruned, a Blackthorn or Hawthorn even Smoo so take your pick.. :WINK1: :D
               
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              or even Broccoli perhaps?
               
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              Ooh :) I've gone from woman on a mad rage to an excited screechy girl at the thought of picking myself a new mini hedge! :D

              Wow all those suggestions, thank you marley! Ill have to make sure i keep on top of pruning and also to park my car a bit more forward so as to avoid thorn scratches and to limit choking it with exhaust fumes lol.

              Which of those would i be able to plant asap? I quite like the hedge you get on roadsides with all the blossom, is that hawthorn or blackthorn? Excuse the newbieness :S
              Whichever is the prickliest and would look the most at home i guess will be the choice winner, thanks so much for all the suggestions!
               
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              Pyracantha is very attractive with white blossom in the Spring and orange berries in the Autumn. It has killer thorns - I know because I've been pruning ours - so leather or other thick gardening gloves are necessary for handling whilst planting. You could order one from a catalogue or phone your local garden centre to see if they have one in stock. Marley's suggestions are just as good, I just happen to like pyracantha!
              The blossom in the hedgerows now is blackthorn - hawthorn comes out a bit later on, end of May I think.
               
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              I think, Marley, has given you really good advice, Smoo. I personally would recommend Pyracantha has the real deterrent shrub to plant. It's very tough, very, very spikey, flowers in late Spring, gives berries in the Autumn for the birds, who love them.:thumbsup: It will get up to 13' in height if you let it, and you've definitely got to wear gloves when pruning it:what::what: It's kid proof, dog and cat proof, and since I haven't seen any Elephants in my garden it must be Elephant proof.:yess::loll::heehee:
               
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              smoo you have to plant a blackthorn read this..!! :D Blackthorn
              So you have to plant a Hawthorn with it & you will be safe.. :D

              Get in touch with a local tree nursery perhaps, but I would have thought as long as you watered them every day with about 2 buckets you would be OK.. Prepare the hole well & put some compost in the bottom first & water well once planted.. :D
              Then keep watered daily if the weather stays like this
               
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