Organic pelleted Chicken manure

so is chicken manure a vegetation fert then. or just an allrounder. if you get what i mean.

 

"so is chicken manure a vegetation fert then. or just an allrounder"

See my earlier response #3 above.

I think B&Q are overstating their product by indicating that it is Organic. If it were truly organic I think it would be clearly labelled as such on the "bucket", and it would be a lot more expensive than that.

I don't have any issue with whether it is, or is not, organic personally, as I don't grow organically (although I almost never use any chemicals on my veg),

But I do recognise that people who want to buy Organic products feel strongly about it, and labelling something as "Organic" when it isn't is a common malpractice - there is nothing to stop anyone putting the word "Organic" on anything, as it is not regulated in law, and the only thing that is controlled is the use of the "Soil Association Organisation" logo etc.

JWK, of this parish, bought bags of Farmyard manure (a couple of years ago) from a garden centre that were labelled "Organic" and contained Aminopyralid which then killed everything in his veg patch :(

 

Wilkos today...their Chicken muck is labelled organic...

 

Well I think they are all stretching a point.

I reckon most of us think of manure as being "organic" (as distinct from Growmore that is made from petrochemicals and the like)

But to "proper organic folk" my understanding is that they use the term Organic as coming from a certifiable environment that doesn't include man-made stuff.

Battery chickens wouldn't be regarded as Organic in that context. But of course it is relatively easy to make pelleted chicken manure from battery chickens because all the raw material is in one place - rather than spread over a free-range field making it hard to collect!

Until the Aminopyralid fiasco a couple of years ago I would never have given a second thought to using manure on the garden, and it being anything other than "healthy". Whilst I don't seek to be Organic I do want to grow vegetables of known provenance. I don't want my fruit sprayed with chemicals to make them look "shiny" or to stop my spuds "sprouting" - let alone pesticides / insecticides / fungicides etc

But I'm starting to wonder about Manure, Blood / Fish / Bone products from factory farming containing antibiotic residues and the like which Who Knows? whether they have any residual impact on the veg I then grow.

My manure comes from the Donkey sanctuary down the road. The Donkeys have to put up with pasture with weeds in it!

 

Thank you for all your answers. what a great forum this is!

Just to clarify what I bought from B&Q. Westland garden health organic chicken manure pellets. Cost, £4.95, bogof. It says on the box "Westland organic plant food is 100% manure processed naturally to peserve its unique benefit". Make of that what you will!

Chris

 

mines pretty much the same 10kg buckets except mine said on it "and you get bogall" sh*t is sh*t who cares about the organic bit im quite sure the animals did `nt cause they dont know otherwise anyway

 

Ah, OK. Westland rather than B&Q own-brand.

I had a look at the Westland website. "100% natural" is what they seem to describe Organic as. I'm surprised a company with such a well know brand would put "Organic" on their product without accreditation and the full blown "soil association logo"

I also agree that not many/none of the folk here (me included) are bothered. But I do think "Organic" tempts the customer into assuming that the product has been kept free from chemicals etc. and is a bit "sharp" if that is not strictly the case.

 

Have to say I'm not too fussy about things being 'organic', but I know some people feel very strongly about it. The trouble with products like this is (as I said earlier) that .. to quote Bambooruth .. 'sh*t is sh*t', it is an organic product, but for those who feel strongly about using wholly organic products, it is misleading insofaras whilst the sh*t may be organic, the chickens from which it came may not have been reared organically.

Considering the vast number of bags of this stuff on sale throughout the country, it does beg the question, are there really enough organically reared chicken to produce quite that much sh*t - even with their prodigious 'output'?

 

I take a darker view I'm afraid. "Put the word ORGANIC on it so we sell more / at a keener price"

Government should legislate so that "organic" means "Soil Association Certified" so that those that want get what they are after, and the rest aren't hoodwinked into thinking its something "better" than normal.

I mentioned it earlier, but JWK's whole veg patch was ruined by bags of manure from a garden centre labelled "organic". All the plants died, and he had to do a lot of work to get it off his site. All because the animals the manure came from had eaten hay that came form pasture that had had a particular selective herbicide sprayed on it the year before.

On that basis I think something similar could easily happen with Chicken Pellets, or Blood/Fish/Bone products ... BSE happened via a not dissimilar route ...

 

I bought 1 tub of chicken pellets in Aldis. They were selling big tubs for £4.99.
I'm sorry I didn't pick up another tub.

 

i bought some today from b&q, but no bogof offer though. , lol i opened the bucket while in the car, kids where in the back,pmsl it was funny.
now how much do u use. there are instructions on the back. but does anyone stick to the instructions. im thinking of sprinkleing less. so i can spread again in fewer weeks .

 

If you think about it,ALL manure is organic.:D