Runner Beans Issues

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  1. Rockmoc

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    I have been having some serious wilting problems with my runner beans can anyone help? I have pulled one up to check the roots and they seem really good. I would appreciate any help :rolleyespink:

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    Are they over-weatered? What are they growing in Rockmoc?
     
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    Looks like wind scorch to me, a physiological disease so not too much of a problem. Just makes the plants look unsightly.:dbgrtmb:
     
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    Yes, looks that that to me, if you have runner bean plants coming on place them somewhere protected from aggressive outside temperature's (both hot & cold) and/or winds they will be too tender to cope with those conditions or the leaves will burn up.

    I move mine outside into partial height enclosures and cover with tethered sheets of newspaper during the hours of hottest sun for a few days + being ready tom chuck an old sheet or net curtain over them on a cold night.
     
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      Well, originally they were planted in the ground but I thought the soil was too clay like and so i dug in some compost. After a month or so the lower leaves started to turn yellow and so I thought I would dig in some general fertiliser. shortly after that the wilt came on. I have two other batches of beans one hidden away that are just yellow on the botom leaves and one other batch has one plant that is wilted.

      So, I guess i have two further questions please.
      1. will they recover?
      2. what would you recommend I do now?

      Ever grateful for the wisdom.
      Rockmoc :hapfeet:
       
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      Might be an idea to stick a back up straight into the ground & pray for the weather to pick up. I've had some Dwarf beans in for months that got shocked when planted out, they are only just picking up after the same leaf damage.

      They've been overtaken by later plantings, in fact we've bean(deliberate pun) picking from the newer ones for over a week now.
       
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        Well most of the beans in that area have died. I will take your advice Ziggy and get another few plants in to replace the dead ones. Cheers Guys
        Rockmoc :hapfeet:
         
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        They probably died because you took them back out. Clay has more nutrients than any other soil, so don`t knock it.:D:D Blue clay, on the other hand is c r a p.:dbgrtmb:
         
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        BEAN WATCH UPATE
        I went to Gardeners world Live and took a sample of the leaves. Frist they said Red Spider Mite but no evidence. After a chat it was revelealed that the beans had been in the same spot for 4 years and the most likely reason was that the beans had ripped all the nutrients from the soil. so they starved to death !!! new ones in a new place now.
         
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        You can grow beans in the same spot year after year provided you incorporate lots of compost before planting, that's what most of us do.
         
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        JWK, I did dig in "some" growmore but i think that they are long overdue a move thanks
         
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        Rockmoc, growmore is just a fertlizer, runner beans need lots and lots of organic matter around their roots. I hope they do better in their new position.
         
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        John I am not very bright but i can lift heavy weights lol
         
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        I have been growing beans in the same place for 40 years with no deleterious effect. As John says, dig in organic matter.

        I use loads of garden compost (about 6 inches) every winter and dig it in very well. The compost compacts down so doesn't raise the surface level too much. You need to dig it in well because the compost is not good enough on its own. With clay soil (which I also have) you have the best combination.

        Leaving the roots in the ground after the beans have finished (until you need to dig it over) should easily provide enough nitrogen for the coming season (beans fix nitrogen and it forms nodules on the roots) as you don't want too much nitrogen. Some potash in very early spring wouldn't go amiss (I use ash from the garden bonfire every two or three years). Otherwise you shouldn't really need any fertilisers - especially as you are on clay.
         
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        When I first plant out my runner beans each year even after hardening off they always seem to sulk for a week or two, but given good weather (hopefully) they soon pick up and race away.

        In the same period of time they were sat there sulking this year (about 10 days - 2 weeks) they have now almost reached the top of their canes and are covered in flowered buds and looking very healthy.

        Prior to planting I dig in rotted horse manure, shredded news paper & chicken manure pellets and give the area to be planted a really good soaking the night before.

        Works for me every year; they were producing beans quicker than we could pick last year :D :thumbsup:
         
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