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  1. Flowerpot

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    One of my hobbies from April/September is Cropcirle chasing, being as i live in the most active area for cropcircles.....Wiltshire, i get to see quite a few. I believe many are manmade but i keep an open mind to Aliens giving us messages. I know it's unfair for farmers to have to put up with crop damage and loss of money, but some i have been to have donation boxes which i give to always. Would like to know others views on Cropcircles and i wil post some piccies of ones i've been into this year if interested.

    This flower piccie i've no idea what it is but thought it was pretty, it was a field full of them next to the Cornfield they were 2 foot tall obviously some type of crop....anyone know what it is? :what:
     

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    I keep an open mind and would love to see your pictures Flowerpot:)
     
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    Well, I'm a non believer in most things but more than willing to admit I'm wrong if the evidence is real, positive and indisputable. Unfortunately, Crop circles have been the subject of hoaxes all the year round to the extent that, to me, the subject as lost all credibility. I see nothing wrong in people chasing crop circles, just in case the truth is out there!, but I do see wrong in those people causing damage to crops just to commit a hoax and feel clever.:D
     
  4. Phil A

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    Could be Linseed.

    Had a few "Crop Circles" around here. They re appear in the spring in the form of the seeds dropped by them.

    I've seen Independance Day, so I don't think its Aliens.
     
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    I am afraid I think its a load of rubbish - they are all man made and have fashion changes in the same way that clothes have fashion change.

    I suspect that there is a natural phenomena such a small whirlwind that can flatten a roughly circular area in a field of otherwise upright corn. And that this gave rise to the original idea that it must have been caused by an alien spacecraft. But modern alien spacecraft must have more fins and fancy bodywork than any 1950's American car if people think the latest crop circle art was caused by the imprint of a spacecraft. :)

    Scientists believe that there is a very high chance that alien life exists outside our solar system. They have now found more than 400 planets circling other suns. And given the massive numbers of suns in our galaxy and the massive number of galaxies out there the chance that some planets could support life is very high. But I think that the chance that they are close enough to try to contact is very unlikely. SETI has been trying for years to pick up their radio transmissions - and so far found absolutely nothing.

    UFO have been well and truly debunked as part of the cold war. The CIA set up the organisation that supported the idea of UFO's, and the same CIA also ran another organisation that denied their existance. It was all to keep the Russians guessing - mainly designed to muddy the waters over the Stealth development.
     
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    some are man made and some are perhaps not

    there were some tests done on several crop circles, and some areas were found to have very high radioactivity

    there are rock paintings in some caves in Namibia that were done by bushmen hundreds of years ago .... some of the pictures/paintings depict flying saucers .... similar rock paintings were found in places like Peru

    there is loads of evidence, but somehow some people will never believe anything unless they see it with their own eyes

    they do not even know how many planets exist, and for man to 'think' he is the only intelligent species in the universe is naive
     
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      I keep an open mind and agree that some are definitely man made.

      But...some are so beautiful and intricate and HUGE that it's difficult to believe that a couple of guys with some planks and ropes can make them in total silence, using no lights and in the few hours of darkenss at this time of year without being spotted.

      Have a look at the current ones on this site and view without prejudice.
      WELCOME TO THE CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR

      Chris
       
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      Possibly G'Quan Eth ?
       
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      :heehee::heehee::heehee:
       
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      Well, I think PeterS, like me admits that the numbers are in favour of life being out there. But even the numbers don't support the theory/belief that we have been and are being visited by visitors from other planets. I do think that claims that paintings in caves by people hundreds of years are depicting "flying saucers" are a bit "previous" and fanciful, after all there are no signs accompanying the pictures say "Flying saucers". The wish to believe in something can be very insidious blinding a person's sense of realism and distorting the evidence to what a person wishes to see. There is no scientific evidence that support the belief that flying saucers are depicted in those pictures, but there are plenty of people who wish it to be so, and believe it to be so, and do so to support their "need" to believe in such things.

      Despite all the widespread reports there is no direct, positive evidence of UFO's or that Crops Circles are made by any other creature than man. Disbeliever and Believer will argue to they're blue [or red] in the face and never change either's thoughts. I would never say that the belief of visiting aliens is "rubbish". But all scientific beliefs have been turned into accepted scientific fact by indisputable evidence and, unfortunately, there is, as far as I can see, no practical scientific evidence to support the theory/belief of UFO's etc.

      There have been a plethora of books claiming to have scientific evidence of such happening but in truth most of them are sensationalist and empty of evidence. They, in reality, merely damage the theory of UFO's etc, except in the eyes of the committed or wishful believers. Me?, all I ask is that I presented with proper, irrefutable evidence that such things exist and so far, I'm sorry to say, all I have seen or heard by disbelievers and believers, the hoaxes, frauds, sensationalism that has been carried out has only added to my cynical disbelief.

      I'm afraid the CIA conspiracy theory, Peter, is just that - a theory. There is no real evidence to back it up.
       
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        Armandii - I would love to believe in aliens visiting earth - but I can't believe in it until there is some creditable evidence.

        I used to work in the local hospital, and there was a patient, who was well known round the town and who also was treated in the mental ward at the hospital, who had legally changed his name to "Jesus Christ, son of God". Now maybe he was, but I felt it was so unlikely that I didn't even bother to say I will keep an open mind on the subject. I think there has to be a modicum of evidence to merit an open mind. However if he could prove it, I would be very happy to believe.

        I think the CIA conspiracy is fairly well accepted now. A number of the people involved have admitted to it in interviews. And they now know the names of the people running the UFO supporters club (what ever it was called), who were CIA agents.

        However its not just the scientific evidence. Believers in UFO's seem to be telling me that there is a race of people who are so smart as to be able to design spacecraft capable of flying huge interstellar distances, but at the same time are so dumb that rather than meet the inhabitants of this planet - they just play games in cornfields - for years on end. I find that the most difficult bit of all to believe.
         
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            We'll have Narn of your scepticism! :loll:
             
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            How about my new theory!

            The crop cirlces are all made by man but under the influence of aliens - just to mess with our minds. :D
             
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              I have the same problem with 'psychics'. Why would the departed go to all the trouble of making contact just to talk about Auntie Flo's budgie, or remind grandma to wash her vest? Now, if they came back and told you next week's lottery numbers, that might be useful.
               

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