Glyphosate ... How long before it works?

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  1. daitheplant

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    If you don`t know it. LEAVE IT ALONE. These products are dangerous, if you don`t know how to use them, then don`t touch them. I would suggest you take a year or two away from what you are doing and get some qualifications otherwise you are going to kill yourself, or other people.:thumbsup:
     
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    thanks ... I'll contact jobcentre and my bank and ask them to bankroll me for a couple of years while i learn how to earn enough to pay my mortage and feed and clothe my family :D
     
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    No offence, but that is how the term " cowboy gardener " came about. It also makes the rest of us look bad. Pack it in and do what YOU are trained for.:dbgrtmb:
     
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    ok .... will start buying some lotto tickets .... I may (hopefully) be retiring shortly

    :help:
     
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    You are that bad at what you are trained for, are you? May I ask, whereabouts do you live?
     
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    what this ... 'pick on dim' night?:scratch:

    I'm waiting for 'Dom's' knock on the door for 'cowboy gardeners'

    :D
     
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    Dim, GET SOME QUALIFICATIONS. You are a natural, but you haven`t a clue about what you are doing. At least get a true gardener to help you out for a while.
     
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    I'd give you a job, but sadly, you are 'past your prime' .... 60 is a bit too old and slow for what I'm looking for, but thanks for the offer

    :cool:
     
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    clueless1 member... yep, that's what I am:)

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    I don't want to flare this up, and I'm not taking sides, but I will say this.

    My dad is over 60, and has done manual work all of his life, most of it in gardens or on farms.

    I've still got plenty of breathing space between me and 40.

    When it comes to garden work, my dad runs rings around me. When we work together, I feel guilty on so many levels. One that I'm nowhere near as old as him, yet I need more rests, another that he's my dad and I should be superseding him by now, and another that he is now well aquainted with the doctors and hospital (due to a long term condition) and I'm not, yet I can't stop him from exerting himself, and burning me out as I try to keep up.

    If there's anything to learn from that, it must surely be that we can't judge someone by their age.

    Oh, and as if its not enough that my dad can run rings around me physically in the garden/on the land, his knowledge of what he's done is so far beyond mine that I sometimes think if I live to 100 I still wont know a fraction of what he knows.
     
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    It sounds DIM as if you are using PARAQUAT It is commercial weed killer and it is deadly both to weeds and MAN
    Dozens of deaths in the 80's when friends in commercial work passed the wonderful weed killer to friends, in coke/soft drink bottles
    Friend forgot about it and later driving home took a swig of COKE as he was hot
    Deed on arrival
    Also absorbed through skin destroys liver and kidneys = death in weeks slowly and very painful

    That is why everything you do has to be trained and licenced these days
    even disposing of rubbish

    As a TAX Officer I will not ask about your UTR

    Becareful at what you do, upset a client or charge 10p more than stated and they WILL dub you in

    It is a JAIL sentence

    IT IS NOT GET DIM DAY just true advice

    You appear very knowledgeable, and impress me as a new gardener then I query myself
    Why does this professional gardener ask questions on here Every day ?

    I really wish you well mate, but stick to stuff that any ordinary gardener has access to

    On an aside the local council sprayed the paths here and we have now 14 dogs died a painful death no mention of the feline species though

    Take care

    Jack McHammocklashing
     
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    after reading this post, I contacted my client a few minutes ago and asked him what the name of the weedkiller is ....

    no, it's not PARAQUAT .... PARAQUAT is sold in powder form, and this was liquid, and PARAQUAT has been banned in all EU countries since 2007
    http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/07/27/105481/Court-bans-paraquat-use.htm


    the stuff I used is roundup, but instead of buying it in small containers, my client obtained it from a farmer who buys it in bulk and gets it a lot cheaper

    as for tax, I can assure you that my tax records are up to date ... I did have problems before when trading on ebay as I never registered for VAT when my turnover exceeded £67 000 per annum, and have managed to sort that and clear my name, so I will not risk and take any chances ... by invoicing, this also allows me to claim back my operating costs ... so, I'm sorry to dissapoint you

    so, no .... I am not a 'rogue gardener' and every job I do is invoiced as many of my clients claim my work back on their own taxes, as they are landlords, and claim it back as an overhead

    I am now at the stage where I have enough work to start hiring one or two full time staff to assist

    as for my experience .... well, I can tell you that I know a tiny amount of gardening, and am learning daily .... hence my involvement on this forum, hardy tropicals, landscapejuice and a few more ... If I am not certain about something, I will post a question .... if someone else posts a question and I think I can help, I will post a reply

    and saying that, I am very busy and work 6-8hrs per day, 7 days per week ... I do not advertise and all my work is word of mouth

    as for daitheplant , this is the 2nd time he has had a go at me in as many months, and somehow I feel that he is very 'bitter' when people who have had no formal training in gardening are succesfull in finding gardening work ... I hold no grudges though ... he was trying to 'wind me up' lastnight on this thread aswell:
    http://gardenerscorner.co.uk/forum/general-gardening-discussion/36559-potted-bay-tree-poisioned.html

    some of the guys on landscapejuicenetwork feel the same as him, and snitch on the small time gardeners who advertise in store windows or on gumtree ... suppose it's each to their own ... there are always threads discussing this issue on that forum

    I hope that clears this
     
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    Nothing to clear with me DIM, other than you really should find out BEFORE you go using something,
    You could kill yourself and others

    As for tax I could not give a damn
    I was an IT/Network engineer for 30 years, but the 03:00 call outs to Casino's at age of 63 on top of each full day shift was the time to wave good bye
    Now I am sat on me bum waiting for six months to pass and retire

    Good luck in your ventures, and as for this thread, it is just discussion same as anywhere else on the www where you get opinions and unwanted advice

    Regards
    Jack McHammocklashing
     
  13. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I'm probably one of the worst people around regarding health and safety, in fact I think now days its far too OTT.

    But I would never use a chemical given to me by a third party on the say so that it was OK to use.
    If I bought it, and I could read the instructions, then OK.

    But to use something from a gerry can, from a farmer seems to be pushing the limits.
    I'd need to know the farmer very well and what he uses the chemical for, plus dilution rates.

    Just my feelings after reading through the thread:)
     
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    Dim, I am not picking on you, it is just that you haven`t a clue what you are doing and you are putting your, and other peoples. health and lives. at risk. You need to learn about what you are doing and LISTEN to what better informed people tell you.:dbgrtmb: Gardening is a science, learn about it and don`t just read books.
     
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      Hi Dim, I used to work on a farm and used all kinds of chemicals, the problem with what you are doing is that a farmer mixes maybe 10,000 ltrs at a time and you mix 5 to 20 ltrs at a time and the chances are that you could be applying that stuff at a massive overdosed rate. That stuff is seriously dangerous so please be very careful for your own saftey and for god sake do not inhale the spray vapours.
       
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