Desperate to know what it is...

Hi all...
I've been wanting to know what this tree/bush is ever since I saw it in bloom at Haddon Hall in Derbyshire.
Each time I go I try to get another seed pod ( I successfully germinated a seed once but it died after a few months ) or look for the id tag.
When I went again this Sunday I took my camera and got some close shots. They have given it a serious pruning since last year and it seems to have given it a boost.
The flower, when it's out, is the most amazing thing: bright red and like a firework ! The seed pod is black and about the size of a (chunky) mangetout.
. anyone know?

 

Reminds me of a Paeonia sp. Common name Peony.
The leaves can be extremely varied depending on which species it is.
Maybe a Tree Paeonia......Paeonia delavayi perhaps?

http://www.winsfordwalledgarden.com/data/images/Garden Flowers/Paeonia_delavayi.jpg

http://www.winsfordwalledgarden.com/planting.aspx?Page=Paeonia

See 18 detailed images in 3rd link.

http://www.plantdatabase.co.uk/Delavayi_Peony

paeonia red flowers - Google Search

http://www.google.co.uk/search?um=1...29969l0l33250l10l9l0l0l0l2l219l1407l2.4.3l9l0

 

I would think a Tree Paeonia ..

Dave

 

It looks like Peaony lutea to me (yellow flowers)

 

found it!

it's this:
http://www.mgonlinestore.com/Coral/Jatropha_multifida01.jpg
but thanks to you all for your suggestions.. I searched and searched through your suggestions. It's this: Jatropha Multifida

 

Going off on a tangent for a moment - Winsford Walled Garden is within an Angling complex in Devon where I used to go on holiday; my mum and dad are there now....small world :D

 

Are you sure Fernie???
Thats a bit tropical

Your pics look like a tree peony to me also

 

Sorry Fernie. It is definitely not Jatropha multifida.
Your leaf is very different from Jatropha multifida. This has leaflets that radiate from a central point at the end of the stalk.

http://floridagardener.com/pom/jatropha_multifidia.jpg

It has many small flowers on a single head.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47108884@N07/4435268109/in/set-72157623518888471

The seed pods are round.

Google Images

It is as Pete says a plant of hot tropical countries.


Why not send an e mail to the head gardener at Haddon with a link to this thread.

http://www.haddonhall.co.uk/contactus.htm

 

Dear all....

I thank you most kindly for your suggestions - and correct information!

I spoke to a lovely lady at Haddon Hall this morning who informed me that the plant I have coveted for years is indeed a tree peony.
She said it is the Ludlowii version, stating it's yellow, but I know it was red when I saw it.. so found the red one is a x version: the P. delavayi x lutea. ( or Paeonia x handel-mazzettii according to Summit Perennials Peonies

HTML:

also known as (P. delavayi x lutea) Common names: Species Tree Peony. A shrub of very long lifespan. Height: to 3ft, and 3ft wide. Plants from seed wild-collected by Halda near Habashan, Yunnan, China at 3200m in mixed Abies-Rhododendron forest. Small bushes. This would seem to be a natural hybrid between the species delavayi (dark red flowers) and lutea (yellow flowers). Hardiness may be a questionmark at this point; they have been hardy for me here, but have yet to show a flower bud. Recommended site: open shade. Foliage coarse; leaf segment widths between the narrow delavayii and the broader lutea. Large solitary flowers are borne for about a week in late spring, bronze-yellow in the literature, but bright red on the plants which flowered here this year: part of the natural variation of this hybrid species?, or a hybrid of the hybridspecies? I don't know. At any rate, the red is nice and bright and maybe a better colour than was expected. Some uses: Accent, in Shrubbery, Specimens, Rock Gardens, Naturalizing.

 

I am so pleased that Haddon Hall have been so helpful.
Thanks for getting back to us all.