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    i bought this in wilkinsons approx 2mnths back,it said climber on the plantpot sticker but no tag with it so i just took a chance,up to now it hasnt flowered of shown any buds either...any ideas plz ?? :)[​IMG]
    this one comes in yellow and white aswell but no idea where it has come from..im sure it wasnt there last yr :scratch:[​IMG]
    i was having a bonfire tonight burning old kids play sheds n bits of hedge ect when i came face to face with these 2!
    :eeew::runhills: i nearly fried them:o[​IMG][​IMG]
    thanks julie xx
















    trust me they was scary :help:
    thanks xx
     
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      I think the first one is Parthenocissus, Boston Ivy. Not sure abbout the second but I think the caterpillar is one of the Hawk Moths.
       
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        The second could be a freesia which is a bulb Joolz, was going to say alstromeria but the flowers don't look quite right.
         
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          1. Is Parthenocissus quinquefolia. Common name virginia creeper.
          Note the 5 leaflets.


          Parthenocissus quinquefolia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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          Parthenocissus tricuspidata. Common name Boston ivy has leaves that are 3 lobed.

          Parthenocissus tricuspidata - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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          2. Looks like Freesia.

          http://www.gardenersworld.com/plants/plant-of-the-week/week5/


          Caterpillar looks like Deilephila elpenor. Common name Elephant hawk moth.

          Deilephila elpenor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
           
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            thanks to u all x :) im glad they are hawkmoths :) still scarey thou:heehee:
            a perfect pic match for freesia silversurfer :thumbsup:
            i might have loose the creeper next year if its going to spread that much xx
             
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            Sorry Silver Surfer, you're right of course. I was in rush to drop a tyre off with a nail in it before going to work and didn't look properly. Mind you, the second part of the name, quinquefolia, 5 - leaved, is a bit of a giveaway!

            Don't be frightenend of it Joolz, it's a lovely creeper and gives almost year round interest.
             
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              thanks boghopper,it has got a bit of a spirt on its crept up a foot already[​IMG] ,i just hope it doesnt engulf everywhere:heehee: i have another creeper in a shady position which is more red in colour il pop a pic on tomo,im now wondering if they might be the same now after looking at the links of pics :scratch: and apparently it used to cover the walls to the gutters :OUCH: it hasnt grew much for the last 2 yrs ive been residing here thou :) could be due to next door extending and blocking sunlight im thinking x
               
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                this the other creeper but only 3 leaf on it so they not the same :) dont know what it is is either :heehee:[​IMG]
                 
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                That is the other one I mentioned above Boston Ivy!

                Parthenocissus tricuspidata. Common name Boston ivy has leaves that are 3 lobed.

                Please see links in earlier post!
                 
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                  So I was nearly right!:WINK1:
                   
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                    The second image is Kaffir Lilies, Schizostylis coccinea.:dbgrtmb:
                     
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                      Sorry Dai., we disagreed about this on a thread last autumn!

                      Have a look at joolz68 image. It is definitely a Freesia.
                      It shows a single stigma ( the female reproductive parts) in the cente of the flower that is sort of branched. Plus 3 stamen.See these close up pics to see clearer detail of what I am describing.

                      http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=fr...tart=0&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0&tx=72&ty=52


                      http://www.flickr.com/photos/somersetman/4337592248/


                      freesia | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

                      With Schizostylis coccinea, it has 3 completely separate long whispy stigmas ending in a pin head. Plus 3 stamen.

                      http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=Sc...ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:86&biw=1272&bih=501


                      http://www.rhsplants.co.uk/plants/_...-coccinea-fenland-daybreak/itemno.RH30000336/
                       
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                      Don't bin your Virginia Creeper Joolz , they grow very well in the shade and can be easily controlled if growing along a fence :dbgrtmb: The leaves look good all year and the autumn colouring is incredible !
                       
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                        Agree with you Silver Surfer definitely a freesia, also Joolz says she has a yellow one pretty sure there isn't a yellow kaffir lily.
                         
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