Outdoor Orchids 2012

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  1. Spruce

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    Hi All

    I like to try somthing diffrent every year somtimes great sucess other not !!!

    Soooo I was considering

    "Out door Orchids"

    • Marsh Orchid
    • Lady's Sliper orchid
    • Hyacinth Orchid
    Never tried before, I would look into each ones's growing ideal postion/conditions.

    Anyone any personal experience growing these or similar or have any realy easy ones to start with and ones to keep clear off.

    As usual any help advice appreciated

    ps, my garden has a bit of a mixture from full sun well drained, to full shade damp all year (may help)


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  2. longk

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    Never grown any of them, but I have grown Pleione and Habenaria radiatta. I also have a lovely pot full of Bletilla striata that I picked up for £3 in the end of season sale.
    As far as Dactylorhiza (Marsh orchid) is concerned, I'm led to believe that if it takes it is easy and pretty hardy. Should self seed too if you're lucky.
    Slipper orchid (PHRAGMIPEDIUM) are not hardy, despite what retailers may say. I signed up to a couple of orchid forums when I first started growing orchids for info, and that was deffo the general opinion regarding growing them in the uk. Also, flowering size Phrags can cost £30, which has always put me off.......
    Are you referring to Dipodium (Hyacinth orchid)?

    I can recommend pot growing of Pleione,
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    .........and Habenaria radiatta,
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      The mild winter meant that my Pleiones which were stored in bags in the garage decided to start off early. So they're now potted up and in the conservatory.................

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      Keeping them a little on the drier side until they really get going, but should be quite a show in a few weeks.
      This little lot was the haul from just three pseudobulbs last year. I discarded the parents, and lack of space means that I have a single one in a pot on its own too.
       
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      :) I know they grow wild in Shineys garden.He's your man.
       
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      just wanted to add my indoor cymbidium orchid :D
       

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      How late do you leave your Cymbidium outdoors Graham - it looks fantastic!
       
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      this cymbidium is a new addition to my estate. the people i work for are new to gardening i'm increasing their house plant collection.
      i've always allowed cymbidiums to stay outside for as long as possible before the first frosts as a rule.
       
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      Thanks - I was wondering if I was pushing mine a little too far.
       
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      some of the old head gardeners i've worked with always told me it was important to air the cymbidiums which helps the flowering cycle and reduces pest and diseases
       
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      Works every year for me.
      Most of my Phals spend the summer outdoors too.
       
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      phalaenopsis love a good airing :D i feed all my orchids once a fortnight through the flowering period :yess:
       
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      So do my Dendrobium kingianiums.
      None of this is really relevant to the original question though..........
       
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      Orchids grow wild in my garden but I haven't the faintest idea about what advice to give. I understand that my orchids prefer poor conditions for growing and must not have any chemicals anywhere near them (we're organic).

      These arrived some years back and have gradually spread throughout my lawns.

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      Each year I have to study the ground carefully to avoid mowing them. I've now become fairly expert on spotting their leaves amongst the grass and weeds. Over the years I've found it harder and harder to try avoiding them when I mow and have now restricted them to just one part of my garden.

      All the others have been carefully lifted, with their surrounding turf, and moved to friends' gardens. At least 70% survived transplanting.

      These particular (bee) orchids (Ophrys apifera) are, I understand, symbiotic and need a certain bacterium in the soil for them to grow. It's the bacterium that cannot survive chemicals.
      Others appear, or disappear, at random but the bee orchids stay and spread. Except last year :(. Some of the bee orchids came up and tried to flower but the drought got them. None of the others appeared at all.


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