I wonder if someone can explain this to me?

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  1. Loofah

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    Obvisouly I'm being simple or something, and not having worked in a Shed maybe this is their version of customer satisfaction.

    I bought a bench from Homebase on their 20% off day. It's great, sturdy and just right for the spot. All happy so far... but one of the largest screws, a 90mm allen key headed one, had the hole filled in (bit where the allen key fits) so can't be tightened.
    Hmf, I think and send email off to the Shed asking for a new screw to be sent rather than dismantling the whole thing and taking back for a new bench. Now you're expecting me to say they want me to do just that? Nope. They 'haven't got one in their spares system' so want me to go to the store with the email so they can get one from another packed bench.
    Is it me or will that bench now be unsellable??
    I don't want another bench but I'd feel slightly obliged to buy it at a vastly reduced cost...
    How does this logic keep them in business?
     
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    gcc3663 Knackered Grandad trying to keep up with a 4yr old

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    How about suggesting that you would take a new bench - and offer them 10% for the other bench with missing parts. Assuming they come up with an acceptable counter offer, I'm sure your local hardware store will have the correct Allen bolt (or similar size-different head)
    Do you fancy 2 benches? - there's always Freesale or Ebay
     
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    • watergarden

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      I can understand it.
      They want you (The customer) to be happy with your purchase, but you are not happy because of an incorrect part. (The hex bolt)

      As they don't actually make anything themselves all products are brought in "ready made / ready to assemble" To obtain one single bolt (The one you require) they would have to contact the manufacturer and have them send over 1 bolt, this not only takes time, but costs money, and not to mention the time you will have to wait for the one bolt. So for them to keep you (The customer) happy it is easier and quicker for them to let you have a single bolt from a set they already have.
      The fact that by giving you a bolt from a new set makes the new set unsaleable is irrelevant since it is better customer service to give you a part you need "there and then" which keeps you happy. The now unsaleable item can be used again for other spares should they be required, if not it can be sold off later as an "as is" item.

      In short its all down to providing good customer service, which inturn keeps your loyalty.

      OR would you rather wait a couple of week while they order you 1 bolt?
       
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        They sold it to you, so they could keep selling it until somebody doesn't want the hassle of sorting it out and simply gets a spare screw from their shed. Just my suspicious mind and that I've seen stores put stuff like that straight back on the shelves after I've taken them back for refund/replacement
         
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        Take the allen headed bolt to a fixings shop. Get an identical item then take the reciept to Homebase with all paperwork collected so far. Cheers, Tony.
         
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        Why?
        If loofah goes direct to Homebase the part is already there, no need to find fixings shop and no need to travel there, and even if you did, what good would receipts do you?
        As I said, its called good customer service.
         
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        They won't do that,

        Basically they will take the part you want from the same shed that they have in stock and then they will package the now incomplete item up and damage it off and it will then eventually find it's way back to the supplier, Homebase a have a system setup-up where by faulty items will be returned to the manufacturer for credit on future purchases from them.

        source: I work for Home Retail Group:dbgrtmb:
         
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          But it doesn't cope with human error/forgetfulness, because when the same thing happened to me they took a part from a box on the shelf (the last one left) I said they should remove that box immediately before somebody buys it and has the trouble of bringing it back, but they said it would be done "later". It was still there several days later when I checked the box and as I suspected it was the one I had taken back, still with the torn packet inside with the part missing they had taken out for me.
           
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          I think they make so much profit on items like these that they can afford to take one screw out of the set - they will sell it later "as seen" at a reduced price which will probably cover their basic cost anyway.

          If you just want to buy one new fixing try Melton Ironmongers of Leicester - the sort of place that will sell you a single nail with a choice of 50 different types.
           
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          It's the pretty standard DisBAFoP "Disengage Brain And Follow Procedure" rulings in these type of places.

          They don't have 'spare parts' for any parts of a flat pack product. The unuseable one will either be sold on to someone else or sent back to the manufacturer.

          I have a number of products that have had small parts that were faulty. The Sheds wanted them returned for a replacement. When I said that I had put everything together, didn't want to take them apart and couldn't lift them anyway (playing the doddery old pensioner card :heehee:) we always seem to come to the same arrangement.

          I say, that if they can't send me the part then send me a replacement and and arrange for the pick up of the faulty item. They always send a new one, or my money back, and never seem to want the old one back!

          This year I've had a really nice hardwood garden table 3ft x 6ft, bought last year, have two of the slats warp slightly. Although they said in the instructions it wasn't necessary to oil it for a while I oiled it when assembled it and again before the winter. When I spoke to someone on the phone (very pleasant person) they asked me if I'd left it out during the winter and I pointed out to them that it is a garden table. They immediately offered me 25% back. I declined this saying that what I really want is a table where the top isn't beginning to warp. They said they would check and get back to me. A few days later I received a cheque for the full amount I'd paid and a note saying that I should keep the table!!

          Excellent customer service but not good for the bottom line!
           
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          Some of them just disengage their brains and don't follow any sort of procedure. Just how can a Homebase operative put a £999.99 price tag on a £60 Flymo strimmer, and to compound their error they put it a flipping Bosch strimmer that obviously looks nothing like the illustration

          strimmer misprice.jpg .
           
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          I think I'd be the one that after the initial grumbling, would then go out and buy a new bolt, unless I could find a suitable one in my odds and sods drawer. Then I'd make a point of not shopping at the bad shop ever, ever again ever, or at least until such a time as it happened to be the most convenient place to shop at for whatever I was after.
           
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          That is someone who isn't paying attention Scrungee, a number of items will come into store and have a price of £999.99 as it is then up to one of the managers to change the price on the computer system

          I don't know about every Argos/Homebase store but I can tell you that the store I work at you would never sell and item if it is known to be faulty as the store will actually loose money selling stock at a reduced price where as sending it back as faulty is seen more positively overall on the stores statistics

          if you see errors or problem staff then you need to report them! ask for the duty manager or approach a team leader (there the ones in a shirt and tie) and the same for the flip side, staff are rewarded for positive feedback so if you have had particularly good service from a member of staff then make their day and go and have a 10 second chat to a senior looking member of staff and tell them how well your were treated

          it works both ways folks a shop can't improve if their not told about problems! (also tell the right people!)
           
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          I'd probably have taken a hacksaw and cut a slot in the top of the bolt .:)
           
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            Or mole grips:sofa:
             
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