Newbury Allotment Dispute

I do so hope for a satisfactory outcome to all of this.
Jenny namaste

 

A one man crusade who does not have the other 499 allotment holders supporting and has not paid rent for not ONE but TEN POLES, Given a free further year to crop the site and go
You could spend more time tending your allotment, than tending the computer and your agenda, Then the council can tend to more serious matters like grannies getting mugged in unlit under passes etc

If you care about grannies and fellow citizens then give up whilst the going is good, and use your life rather than waste it, because that is what you are doing flogging a dead horse
You have spoken to every gardening site in the UK BUT NOT to your fellow allotment holders ? weird

I see your point in principles, only just now there are more important things in the UK to worry about
Like today I had 36 people who are no longer working who were on
£1.2k per week have a very big mortgage and are now to recieve £61pw Job seekers allowance (I have done this day in day out for the past two years and I know by rote how it now goes,
The mortgage forcloses, The home is lost with negative equity, The wife and kids now leave him, and go home to Mum,where they claim £60 per child per week, and he either goes home to his Mum and can claim NOTHING or lives on the streets again with NOTHING
Sort of puts it into perspective)

Jack McHammocklashing

 

Thanks for your perspective on this.

 

Simon you mind me asking you? do you think you will win in the end?

 

suppose the best way I can put this is as following:

you rent an allotment ....

it's like being part of a club, or being in boarding school, or being in the army, but it's actually better as you are not forced to be part of the group (you can leave whenever you wish)

there are rules, regulations and etiquette .... if you want to be part of the team, be friends with everyone and accept the rules

if not, move on but don't slag anyone and don't burn your bridges

 

God has it this week,

http://imgur.com/kh5fC

 

You risked further damaging the continuum by repairing the damage I accidentally did when I caused the link to break. Well done

 

Please consider what these ,not just wise owls but garden friends ,are saying. I think that the feel good factor that exists down on an allotment is worth its weight in gold.
I truly wish you well,
sincerely,
Jenny namaste

 

the flag is just fine n dandy Jack! so leave it alone! bit shocked the way you post lately? I remember a time you wanted to pick up your ball and go home over your "cat" thread, live n let live, seems the op has a post and you are just bashing him for the sake of bashing???

to the OP, make your FOA RQ's 2008, request ALL data to include minutes of ALL council meetings and emails, someone uninformed peep posted it was a £10 charge to make that request on page one, thats untrue, the council may ONLY CHARGE for photocopying and such like, if you request the info electronicly ie by email, then they have no right to make a charge, dont be put off that the council would be better off dealing with clearing up dead grannys! they have a budget for both and NO granny will go undefended or burried!

you might be as mad as a box of frogs? I dont know? but the LAW SAYS you can ASK, so do so.

Plant Potty

 

Just out of interest, what law is that one? I'm aware of the Data Protection Act 1990 which entitles you to data held about you, for for which the data controller (the council in this case) may charge a max fee. I'm also aware of the Freedom of Information act, which entitles anyone to request data that they can claim is in the public interest and is not confidential, or otherwise sensitive, and the data controller (limited to government bodies) can charge a fee proportionate to the cost of fulfilling the request, with no set limit.

To get the full picture, the OP should in theory make separate data requests under both acts, but that would be time consuming (28 days to initially respond plus upto 40 days to fulfil the request after the initial 28 days for DP act, FOI is longer if I remember right), and costly (I think £10 for DP, unlimited for FOI).

Under the Freedom of Information act, the fee has to be shown to be proportionate to the cost of processing the request. Its a token law that means nothing to mere mortals, because although you have the legal right to challenge the cost, that challenge has to happen in court at your expense, so either way you get no control over the cost. The council may say it will cost them, and therefore the claimant, £5,000 to process the request. You may then argue that it will only cost £10, and then the onus is on the claimant to challenge the cost in court.

All that said, I'm not a lawyer. My knowledge is limited to what I was forced to learn in order to keep my previous job in an FSA regulated company serving a long term government contract. I only learned what I was required to know in order to pass the endless refresher courses so that they weren't required under the terms of the contract to bin me off. There may well be other laws similar to DP and FOI that I'm not aware of.

 

Hmm pride in your country.... forget it