WAITING FOR THE PAEONIES

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  1. simbad

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    I do a similar thing Kristen, I belong to another forum :mute: which has a garden section on your username were you can list all plants in your garden including photos, and any relevent information of were they are in the garden etc, find it invaluable, I also have a large plan drawn on paper with all my daylily varieties numbered in pencil so if I move any around its easy to rub out and change, do have copper labels for them all too, but unfortunately the flippin magpies love shiney things and pull them all out:mad:.
     
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    I bought a load of paddlestones to use as labels (seen them in other gardens) but have never got around to using them :doh:

    I've also seen small pieces of slate, a hole drilled in one end, hung on trees and shrubs using plastic coated wire.
     
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    I bought some supports from Wilkos a few years ago.
    They are a single centre peg (like a cane but green). On the peg goes a ring (about 16"dia.) that slides up and down with the growth of the plant. This enables support throughout the flowering season.
    No supports means the plant will flop when the weight of the flower head increases with flowering.
     
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    It's looking really good, Bilbo.:thumbsup: Stick it in the ground in the Autumn and it'll "thank you" for it.:snork: Don't forget the pics of it in flower:hapydancsmil:
     
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    What are paddlestones please Shiney, I've not heard of them. :scratch:
     
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    Sheal, they're large flat stones, usually 3"-4" long and up to 2" wide) that have had their edges smoothed by water action. In the old days they usually came from river beds but they are now, also, tumbled by machine.

    It's now fashionable to have slate ones (choice of different colours) that are also sold in smaller grades for mulching.

    If you get the larger ones you can paint the names of plants on them (generally using a silver or gold waterproof pen) and stick them in the ground in front of the plant. I bought a bag of them from a local garden centre that sells gravel and stones for the garden. Last year it cost £7.99 for a 20kg bag.

    This is what they can look like

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=p...&sa=X&ei=VxGNT5v_KMn_8gOwz5zYCw&ved=0CJcBELAE
     
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    Thanks Shiney. There's a river a few miles from my home that have those stones. How many tons would you like. :heehee:
     
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    Thanks Shiney, there is a river just a few miles from my home that has these. How many tons would you like? :heehee:

    I've just found this picture, are these the ones?

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    Pick some good ones out for me and drop them in when you're coming this way. I'll make you a curry :dbgrtmb: :heehee:
     
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      Could we try I'd Mrs Potty's paeonies, there was some around the side of the house growing wild and falling out of the bank, I dug out what I thought was one root mass type thing and planted it into the rockery in spring 2010, it died back but came up with a single flower in 2011....
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      this year it has two buds, but with a second plant growing behind it? one thats more red than green...
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      I just looked on the bit of rough ground that I dug it from in the first place and see another type/red one growing....
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      would be interesting to know if I can save the one above with some time and love, and that it looks like in flower?

      Many thanks, Plant Potty.
       
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        I hate trying to id a variety of plant from pics as colours differ so much from pic to pic.:snork:
        But here are some names to think about::scratch:
        Cimbar Red
        Lowell Thomas
        Adolph Rousseau
        Rubra Plena
        Kansa
        Karl Rosenfield
        Felix Brouse
        Inspector Lavergne
        Paul Wild.

        Your Paeonie looks fairly healthy and strong. Despite the myth that they don't like being moved they are tough plants and usually take rough handling without a problem. To help it flower more give it weekly feeds of Tomato Fertiliser at the first sign of a bud or even before!! As an afterthought, my gut feeling is that your Paeonie is either Rubra Plena or Karl Rosenfield........but I could be wrong!!:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
         
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          Watching and waiting too :)
           
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          Thank you :)

          Just to be clear, do you think the red leaf and green leaf are the same plant, Mrs Potty thinks they are, and its new growth? I found an old photo from very early 2011.....
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          I covered around the shoots with woodchip to tidy up the weeds lol, but you can see a year ago the plant/shoots at the back dont look the same then? they died back last year, but this year they look like they will be bigger than the smaller plant at the front?!?!?!
           
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            Hi PP, most Paeonies stems and leaves start off red[ish] in the early stages like so:

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            But some can be greenish:

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            Further on the leaves turn mostly green but there are some dark coloured leaved Peonies. To be honest it's too early to be sure whether you've got one or two varieties there, and looking at the spacing of the shoots you might have three separate clumps there, although you say you only put in one clump. For a single plant being in the situation for only two years it has spread out a lot in a short time, unusual for a Peonie as they take their time to spread.:scratch::snork:
             
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