Tomato Growing Thread 2012

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  1. Freddy

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    Hiya John, thanks for that.

    I have all of my plants in the propagator at night, maintaining around 15c. Problem is, they're now growing fast and will need potting on, which will mean not enough space to house them in the propagator. I notice the next few nights are more mild than of late, so I'll probably pot them on and leave them out in the next day or two.

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    I am imagining the same problem when I get the bigger pots to put the Maskotkas in. Their leaf span has trebled since the start and I just know they will only just fit on the window sill. Bit like me after Christmas. A diet is in order....
     
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    It's best to keep them in a smaller pot even though they look like they need potting on. This stresses the plant and stimulates it into producing flowers. Once you get flowers then pot them on. Otherwise you get plants with lots of leaves and big stems. Don't worry if the lower leaves start going yellow, it's a sign the plant is stressed and needs feeding but that is what we want right now. When you plant it in it's final position in a week or two (in a greenhouse) you can strip off those old yellow lower leaves at the same time as planting it as deeply as you dare :blue thumb:
     
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      Hiya John.

      Trouble is, it goes against the grain to deliberately stress them out. BTW, isn't it usual advice to plant them into the border once the flowers form?

      Cheers...Freddy.
       
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      You've got to be cruel to them Freddy! Otherwise you end up with a strong growing plant with lovely leaves but no fruit. Yes you are right about planting out, but if like me you have plants that are already in flower then it's a little early to plant out in case of frost.
       
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        No flowers as yet, I was able (a little bit) to resist the urge to sow too soon:)

        Only one thing, they are starting to look a bit 'leggy':doh:
         
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          You've planned better than me Freddy, I sowed all mine at the same time, forgetting that the outdoor ones can't go out till late may.
           
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          I got carried away and sowed early.....i was stupidly expecting a spring like last year:doh:
          Mine are looking a bit stressed ....they're probably getting 'motion sickness' after being shuffled around the greenhouse constantly....think i need to stop messing with them and just keep them cozy....
           
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            Hiya John.

            I think we're all the same, we know we should wait, just a little. I still have some to sow, 'Legend'(for outdoors).

            The thing I remember from last year is that Sungold were very early to ripen, so with that in mind, I don't have to worry about getting Toms early. I can therefore take a more relaxed approach as to what follows.
            As the years go by, I TRY to learn by my mistakes and experiences. Nothing scientific, just based on memory and 'feel'. With a LOT of luck, one of these years I'll get it right!:)

            Hopefully, that made sense:biggrin:

            Cheers...Freddy.
             
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              So are mine Freddy. I think they are craving warm sunshine. It's a very thin line this growing the perfect tomato plant isn't it?
               
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              Well I have chomped through them all my life, just tomatoes
              Since I produced my own, I have got now that shop bought ones over winter are a waste of money, to the point of me going without, other than for frying for Scottish breaskfast
              Shop ones are red, round and taste of err Water

              Envy Johns ones, mine are just to the smallest of flower bud stage

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                Hiya Jenny.

                Going 'leggy' is usually down to lack of light. I keep my potted plants in seed trays, and as they grow they start to deprive each other of light. I know one or two of the guys on here have 'light boxes' which is something I might give a go at some stage.

                Cheers...Freddy
                 
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                Some varieties respond better than others under lights. I'm also checking out which small 'patio' type toms grow best under them and in the autumn I'm intending bringing the light box indoors from the green house and putting some plants from later sown toms in it to see if I can get fresh toms in winter. (don't tell my daughter, but I've already measured up her room for redecorating with Mylar wallpaper for after she's gone to Uni)
                 
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                  These blessed 9 Maskotkas in the bedroom are depriving US of light AND oxygen!! I take the point though about them crowding each other out of available light. If I put one of these light boxes up and pull the blind down, I'm afeared that the rozzers may wonder if I'm growing *annabis!!
                   
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                    Hope you don't mind me chipping in on this thread - I'm glad to find somewhere to seek advice on my vegetable adventures this year. This is my first year with a garden big enough to really get stuck in, and to really get me started my lovely mum bought me a polytunnel for my birthday back in February.

                    This spurred me on to sowing some tomato (Moneymaker), chilli, pepper & cucumber seeds - I sowed them in trays placed cling film over the top and waited to see how I got on, not really expecting much. Suffice to say that I ended up with around 70 healthy tomato plants, and have been giving them away to neighbours and colleagues ever since!:snork:

                    Anyway, I am now left with 9 plants that are sitting on my kitchen and staircase windowsills, and they seem to be getting bigger by the day.

                    They are currently living in 5" pots, which gives me a couple of dilemmas - given the pots they are in, I think a conventional growbag will be too shallow to accommodate them, so I am considering using a couple of the re-usable growbags like this one - how many plants will I be able to get into each?

                    Also, I have put one plant out in the polytunnel (it was one of the smaller ones) to see how it faired - its not suffered, but its equally not thrived as much as the ones in the house - is it too early to move them all out? Or would I be better moving four or five out now to slow them down a bit, and then I don't have nine plants all producing fruit at the same time?

                    Any and all advice gratefully received, as I am the first to admit that I am very much a learner. :)
                     
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