Glyphosate found in Human Urine

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    http://www.ithaka-journal.net/herbizide-im-urin?lang=en

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    Glyphosate is the main active substance used in most commercial herbicides. It poisons not only plants, but also animals and humans. When testing for glyphosate contamination in an urban population, a German university found significant contamination in all urine samples with levels 5 to 20 times above the legal limit for drinking water.
     
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    Well, I guess that's not surprising as, although we seem to think we're above all animals and nature, we are in the food system and chain. So if we spray with chemicals somewhere along the line we will absorb it one way or another.:snork: DDT springs to mind and we're starting to reuse it again...plus the Bee Colony Collapse Syndrome that is happening globally due to the use of systemic chemicals which bees are picking up in pollen and taking inadvertently back to the hives.:mad:
     
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      That makes for frightening reading Dim.
       
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      sadly, not much comes close to roundup when you have loads of weeds .... some say white vinegar with a strength of at least 20% is also very good (and much cheaper), but I have never tried that
       
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      Weeds are one thing, but spraying a crop days before it goes into the Human food chain is downright criminal.
       
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        Even with "weeds" Bees take the pollen, and systemic chemicals stay in the crop whether sprayed on days or months before:dunno::doh::mad:
         
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        Absolutely Zigs..!!!
         
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        Jeesh it is frightening what is allowed & I suppose most of us must also have traces it in our bodies too.! :help:
         
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        I'd always thought that Glyphosate worked by speeding up the plants growth to a point that the plant gives up and dies, not so?
         
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        Just to balance things out, I'm going to come at this from another angle:)

        I haven't read the full article, just the bit Dim quoted.

        It seems to me, that while I don't think anyone wants to ingest glyphosate, surely the fact that it is still glyphosate when it comes back out of the body means that the body simply passed it through as is?

        There are several chemicals in wee that sound nasty (and maybe are, I'm not a scientist). It would be easy to make a story about traces of nitrates and phosphates being found in wee.
         
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        While its going through though, it can break down the building blocks of your body, make you sterile & give you cancer.
         
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          Most of us have lived through the DDT years, and all the other nasty chemicals that came later and are now banned.
          Its not worth getting in a flap about a bit glyphosate.

          Think of all the other nasties you ingest every day in much higher quantities.

          Traffic fumes probably being the one that most of us take in, and have done for years.
           
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            In the absence of citations to a .EDU or a learned scientific publication its just Rant.

            "a German university" - unnamed? no link to the actual research? not even any research scientists identified by name??

            Sorry Dim, but without corroboration this is just junk. Lots of sites like that, the links go round in circles back to themselves; I never take them seriously.

            From Wikipedia (there are citations to the supporting material on Wikipedia if you want to check them):

            "Roundup has a United States Environmental Protection Agency‎ (EPA) Toxicity Class of III (on a I to IV scale, where IV is least dangerous) for oral and inhalation exposure"

            i.e. its pretty benign. The surfactants in the formulation are likely to do you greater harm.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate#Effects
             
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              if you read the link properly, you would have seen the link to the citated report ... here it is again:

              http://www.ithaka-journal.net/druckversionen/e052012-herbicides-urine.pdf

              you need to do a bit more research on google about companies such as Montsanto ... don't just read whats printed in the daily mail
               
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              You're right. Clueless, but it has been found that chemicals etc can be held in the body even after passing through just in the natural process of absorption. Take Ziggy and I as an example we absorbed a lot of alcohol:heehee::snork:
               
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