What's happened to this country?

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  1. Victoria

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    Maybe you should have gone to that concert yourself Robajobs and then maybe you may have recognised something ... :scratch:
     
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    I doubt it Victoria, I'm a soul man :dbgrtmb:

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      Have you still got your Anorak as well? :heehee:
       
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        What I find is that when/if someone is polite, it takes a few seconds for it to sink in then you find yourself uttering some complete gibberish because the surprise has robbed you of the power of normal speech.

        Misanthropes of the world unite :yes:
         
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          I am against goverbent control but honestly can say there are people out there that shouldn't be allowed to breed.How many times do you read threads about folks who live next door to a private rented house and have to put up with all sorts.
           
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            Sorry to hear about your bad experience. Squashed trains are a little bit like prisons. You cram as many people as you can into a small confined space and they start to behave like animals - plus a lot of them will have been drinking i guess that does not help. Its not uncommon though, what you described sounds like an average night if it upsets you then in future i would arrange a minibus is possible :blue thumb:
             
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            My (very unmaternal) daughters have a theory - one says everyone should be sterilised at birth, only being allowed a reversal procedure once they've taken intensive courses, passed stringent exams - and even then not until they're at least 30; whilst another only has to see someone trying - and failing - to control their offspring for her to trot out her mantra 'You should never be allowed to have more children than you have hands'.

            Of course, if I listened to her 'advice' she wouldn't be here, being as she is, the youngest of our 3!
             
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              Does the size of the hands make a difference? :scratch:
               
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                I wonder how best to stop them? You could spike their Big Macs with bromine, perhaps.

                A while back, I was walking along the road when I heard a very young mum screaming at her toddler to 'stop being a ******* little bitch'. Well, I suppose I could have said something, but I didn't. I just averted my eyes and moved swiftly on. That happens a lot, I believe. We think it, but we don't say it, partly because we don't want to get involved and risk being duffed over and partly because we don't think it will do any good.

                Personally I wouldn't want to go back to the days when the neighbours ostracised you for not having a clean front step or sparkly windows, but I sometimes think that a bit of shame might go a long way. It is shameful to scream abuse at your toddler. It is shameful to live in a house that is filthy and has piles of rotting rubbish outside. And it shameful not to have some basic manners. Somewhere along the line we removed shame and replaced it with good old Nanny State, who loves all her children unconditionally and never tells them to shape up and behave. She is a very poor mother, in my opinion.
                 
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                  IMHO some folk have no self respect,no concience (sp) no compassion ....i could go on...so really what chance do their kids have......
                  My mother who is coming up 80 still frets if her windows aren't clean and her nets aren't just so....she'll troup in and out checking when she's just washed and put them back up...."what will the neighbours think"....i've told her they won't even notice because they couldn't give a damn ...the reply i always get is "Ah they won't notice but I will"....some folk just aren't prepared to 'keep up standards'.....i for one totally agree.....
                  Loli the Luddite stikes again:yes:
                   
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                    Nah - I found my midget hands just as effective at landing the occasional well aimed bottom slap, as someone with large hands might!

                    Our daughters were, by and large, pretty well behaved when they were out - possibly something to do with the fact that they never went anywhere without the reins on (can you still get them? Why does no-one use them any more?). Not that they were little angels by any means, but whilst I may have been the one pushed to the occasional firm but gentle smack, on no occasion did Mr. F'smum ever once smack any of them - so imagine how mortified he was when one day, being so inscensed by one daughter's consistent bad behaviour, that he actually raised his hand ... at which point this small, clear voice pipes up 'Don't hit me again, Daddy'. :what: Funny, but I don't think we've ever been to Eastbourne as a family since!!
                     
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                      I know I defended some of the youngsters earlier in this thread but I feel that I must thank them once again for being considerate.

                      They're not all yobs - even if they may look and sound like them.

                      We were back up in London as tourists yesterday and couldn't have met more thoughtful youngsters. When we got on a tube that was crowded two male teenagers (about 18) immediately got up and offered their seats to us.

                      Later in the day (about 11.30 p.m.) on another crowded tube Mrs Shiney managed to get a seat that had just been vacated. She wasn't the nearest person to the seat but the few people in front of her let her take it. As she was seated I handed her shopping back to her (which I had been carrying). Three Essex girls (real Essex girls) were sitting opposite Mrs Shiney. They had obviously been out enjoying themselves and were talking with loud voices (with extreme Essex accents), had iphones plugged into their ears, wore loads of makeup and not a lot of clothes (one of them wore such short shorts that her legs were uncovered almost up to her waist :rolleyespink: :)) . That girl saw me hand the bag to Mrs Shiney and immediately jumped up and offered me the seat she had been sitting in.

                      A little further along opposite where I was now sitting was another teenager (male) with long dreadlocks who was engrossed with playing a game on his phone. He, naturally, noticed the girl as she was getting up (difficult to miss her :heehee: ) and jumped up, offered her his seat and said that he was getting off in a couple of stops anyway.

                      Sitting next to Mrs Shiney was a young man (probably mid-twenties) and he said to me "Why don't we swap seats so you can sit together?"

                      Later on during our journey young people twice gave up seats for other passengers - both females in their forties.

                      The three girls continued their journey making quite a bit of noise - enough to normally make me think 'what is the world coming to?' - and got off at a station in Essex.

                      All the youngsters we saw during the 12+ hours we were up in London never gave us any concern. Well done :dbgrtmb:. you were a credit to your generation :)
                       
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                        Don't forget John lydon was held up an pilloried by the press as being the incarnation of everything that was evil an banned by the bbc an last week he was a guest on question time.

                        The vast majority of kids today are exactally the same as when I was in my teens an 20's they do the same stuff just with an iPhone stuck to their ear instead of a Sony Walkman
                         
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                          The nearest we got to that when we were kids was a seashell stuck to our ears :heehee:
                           
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                            You were lucky to 'ave sea shell, we used to make do with powdered egg tin.
                             
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