naughty pond fish

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    Ive had a look on ebay,bradshaws look cheapest but i will keep looking around :) darrans softening to my idea :biggrin: we was thinking of running a stream from one the other but as i recall watergarden & armandii thought they maybe probs with flooding on the lower pond so enlarging the frog pond with land we are not using is a good option :blue thumb:x
     
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    Strewth. I feel like my garden is minute now. It's only around 30ft at it's longest, and 15ft at it's widest (there's a small kitchen extension thinning the length and width in one corner). If I had the space Joolz I'd definitely expand to a larger pond. I love ponds. I've gone from a titchy 70x70cm pond, and I'm now at my tiny 120x80 pond. Space has run out now though.

    I'd love a pond like Simbad's (it's really nicely done, Simbad, the plants look great). I think we'd have to swim for the back gate though if I put that in my tiny patch. :biggrin:
     
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      Jo,small gardens are great :SUNsmile: thats what ive been used to untill i moved here :) now i struggling to fill this one...so big pond is welcome if i can get him to dig it out:WINK1:
       
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      Thanks Jo Sara :biggrin:,like joolz this is my first big garden too, still never enough room :loll:, 6 new daylilies arrived today, were the hell am I going to put them:scratch:, feel another daylily bed extension coming on :ideaIPB: , there'll be no grass left soon.
      Sure your garden is lovely, I've seen lots of beautiful smaller gardens :dbgrtmb:
       
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        What you like simbad!mines only a mini daylilly patch at mo :WINK1: i did purchase a Hemerocallis canadian one thou last week but doubt it will grow much this yr,i think thats 7 ive got now with the ones i got from you :blue thumb:
        Ive not seen the tadpoles today i reckon ur right... the fish have ate them :cry3: x
         
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        Well simbad you was right :blue thumb: ive counted approx 12 babies (5 black & the others mixed colours) and probably more to come:hate-shocked: i will have to rehome them if they make it through the winter,im sure the pond isnt big enough for tham all:sad:
        Hanging out with their daddy...
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        And their mum:biggrin:
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          Ooooh - wonderful exciting news Joolz,
          you made my day a lot brighter now,
           
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            The more fish the merrier, I say. A pond looks better with more than a few fish! Like others have said, mating is most likely the motivator, although it is possible that you have an aggressive fish on your hands.
             
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              Ive seen him chase them 3 seperate times over the months ,up to now i can see 2 sizes of fishlets so i guessing the might be another batch on the way :dunno:i dont mind having lots but i thought they needed so much space per fish or lack of space stunted their growth??
               
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              Cheers jenny,we sit watching them for hrs..neighbours must think we are weird :heehee:x
               
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              They do need space / fish.

              But it does not "stunt their growth" (That is a very popular misconception) as is, a fish only grows to the size of where its living (Bowl being the most common)

              Put it like this.

              When you, I or anyone else is born would that person stop growing if you put them in a box?
              Of course not, its the same with any living thing, it will grow and grow until its DNA says "Though shalt grow to x and stop there"

              But back to fish, the error comes about because fish are small and will physically fit in a small space, so that's what people do. BUT fish do not have toilets in their homes, they literally swim in their own poop. This increases the ammonia and other toxic levels in water, and this can eventually kill them.
              Ponds have plants. The plants actually use the "poop" as fertiliser so for a while you are ok, this is called a pond being in balance, but its hard to maintain / achieve so dedicated pond owners install filters etc (another subject) but when you get too many fish or not enough plants the fish die.
               
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                Oh, good, that means there's a good chance I might get some more fish from the ones in the pond.:hapydancsmil:
                As usual, Water Garden is spot on with advice:thumbsup::snork:
                 
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                  Thanks watergarden,ive got a uv filter and i keep buying more plants,nothing died yet fingers crossed..do still keep getting algae thou is that normal?
                   
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                  Hope so armandii,their really cute :heehee: hows the tads doing?
                   
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                  The amount of rain we have been having will contribute to algae .
                  Mine is only a little 1m2 raised pond around 60cm deep.
                  I've got 8 fish in there, 2 pots of iris and a miniature water lily.
                   
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