Buddleia Pruning

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    Good evening all do you need to hard prune Buddleia every year:) Thank you
     
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    Hi Woo, the best time to hard prune a Buddeia is in Spring, cutting it down to 2 or three buds. I would prune it down by a third in Early Winter to stop wind rock.:snork:
     
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      Thank you my friend much appreciated:)
       
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        I agree totally with Armandii especially about pruning to stop wind rock. I nearly lost my favourite ancient Buddleia by not reducing it's height last late Autumn. It isn't a "crime"! not to prune each year it just means your shrub will have it's flowers skywards next summer and it isn't very productive to prune into old wood to make up for missed years of annual pruning.
         
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          Totally agree with Armandii, I then cut mine to pretty much ground level in the Spring & I get very good growth & blooms every year.. :SUNsmile:
           
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            Many thanks Armandll,Silu,and Marley your advice has been invaluble my friends,and I shall definitely follow it:)
             
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              ooooooooooooooo I havent been pruning mine hard enough :oopss: I shall remember this (or try to) next spring :ThankYou:
               
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              I prune mine twice in Spring, about 3 - 4 weeks apart. Half the stems the first time, half the second. I don;t know if it really works, but I like to think it extends the flowering season - the later-pruned stems have more growing to do before they are ready for flowering.
               
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                My buddleja regime is as follows:

                * During the early phase of flowering, cut off just the faded flowers, leaving the (usually) two small, waiting flowers just below to come along.

                * In mid and late flowering phase, same as above except that I cut further down the branch, typically about a foot or two down from the faded flower.

                * After flowering, cut down to 1/3rd of the bush's height. That's it for the year then.

                * Around April (up north), when everything is awake but still yawning, cut down to a a few inches above the ground ready to produce lots of vigorous new growth.

                Following this regime, they always do well for me and stay a reasonable size.

                Another strategy that hasn't been mentioned yet is to prune them to be a small tree. My mother in law has two such ones in her garden after the later father in law pruned them that way over several years. My sister also has one like it. I think the trick is to keep them low, cut off all but the strongest stem at ground level, and then following normal pruning guidelines except never going below about 3ft from the ground.
                 
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                  Hard pruning, as mentioned, is the usual way but we have done what clueless has said and turned ours into a tree. We let one main stem continue upwards and removed all side shoots. Then cut it off at about 4ft. it sprouted out from there.

                  We follow that regime every year and cut the shoots from the main stem (now a smalltree trunk) to a couple of feet from the the stem. A few of them we leave a bit longer so that it isn't too symmetrical. Occasionally we let a few shoots grow from lower down the trunk.

                  We grew it that way as it's about 15ft from the kitchen window and we didn't want our view obscured. It also allows other plants to be grown beneath it - snowdrops, cowslips, aquilegias etc.
                   
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                    I have not been pruning mine at all ! Another GC lesson learned - thanks all :blue thumb:
                     
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                      mine have just about finished flowering & are about 10 feet tall! I shall give them a bit of a trim soon to guard against the wind, as it does get pretty windy here on the top of a hill
                       
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                        Well you live and learn. I was taught not to really hard prune Buddleia and only prune off the majority of previous year's growth and not far back into really old wood.. This Spring while in a bad mood I attacked some ancient and I mean ancient Buddleias. Instead of carefully pruning them I sort of hacked away with gay abandon. The next day I really regretted what I'd done as along with the normal purple ones I have a nice white 1 and a very pretty pink 1 too. I was convinced that I'd slaughtered them and was annoyed with myself. HOWEVER while weeding today, what do I spy?, plenty of new growth appearing on all The Buddleia, yippie. Not only are they fine, they will also look much better as because of the way I had been pruning them they now aren't so tall and not nearly so much old wood visible.:)
                         
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                          For me it's not's so much as "old" wood and "new" wood as, while pruning back hard and also taking into account the rule about pruning back to 2 or 3 buds, deciding what stems are needed for the shape you want the Buddleia to be in the forthcoming year. So some new and old wood is taken out completely to retain the shape I want.
                          The older the wood is the more brittle it gets and more prone to breaking away it is. My Buddleia is around 30 years old and some trunks are now defunct due to old age and wear and tear despite hard pruning, but it still grows well each year and provides a huge number of flowers for the insects. My only problem with Buddleias is the pollen. I have to wear a face mask when pruning the finished flowers as the fine dust of pollen sends me into choking fits!!!:hate-shocked::snork:
                           
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                          Just thought I'd add one more for later. When the flowers are on. Buddleja forms sort of tridents with the flowers on. The lead one happens first and two much younger ones get ready just down the stem from it. If the lead one is allowed to turn brown, then 9 times out of 10 the two little ones either side wont bother to develop. So I always chop out the central flower of the 'trident' as soon as it looks about finished, and then the other two invariably grow rapidly to take its place. Result is just longer flowering. I guess its just dead-heading in a way.
                           
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