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  1. Sheal

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    Enjoy the break Merle especially while the sun still shines! Good luck with the new job, I'm sure you'll hear from them soon. :) Perhaps you should make contact with them to see what's happening.
     
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      :autlvs: Abslutley Fantastic News Merl God Bless Yo and Congratulations

      Enjoy the Brake You Deserve it Good Luck Good Helth and God Bless Ya Xx Well Done :wub2:
       
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      Still no news from the new job :dunno:

      I received an email yesterday evening asking me to complete an online Verbal Reasoning Test. I didn't think that would present any problems as I like to think I have a good grasp of the English language.

      Boy was I wrong! I scored 53% and 46% on the two practice tests I found, partly because of time constraints (30 questions in 19 minutes) and partly because I have a tendency to over-analyse things.

      I did the 'proper' test this morning and ran out of time, so I missed a couple of questions. I really hope that I fared better on that than I did on the practice tests, otherwise the score will be very low.

      The format is such that you have a paragraph of text, following which you have a statement which you need to answer as True, False or Cannot Answer. You have to base your response purely on what is contained within the text.

      Here's a link to a practice test if anyone fancies a go (I'll start a separate thread for this too).

      I used the test results rather than the percentile.

      If anyone does it, please let me know how you get on. Hopefully you won't be as 'fick' as I am :doh:
       
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        Had a go at the quickie example (only 4 questions) but I did get 100%

        I'll have a go at the full practice test later, should be interesting.
         
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        I didn't do the full practice test but I did the five examples.

        In statement 1, which reads as follows:
        The wrong answer is listed as correct. I.e. the right one is wrong, and a wrong one is right:)

        I chose 'Can not say', which is the correct answer based on the information given, but the site has it down as wrong. This is because whoever set the question made an assumption, and what happens when we assume to much? It makes an ASS out of U and ME.

        At no point in the passage does it say that the work is such that there is no specialism. A student with no experience may indeed be able to come in and do many of the run of the mill duties, helping a company to stay productive during the main holiday season, and depending on the type of work (not mentioned in the passage) that may be all that's needed, but we don't know that because it doesn't give us any clues.
         
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          The idea of the test is to see whether you can correlate an answer based only on the information given and not on any prior knowledge you may have. This makes it difficult because, with some of them, the conclusion you should reach (for the purposes of the test) is not necessarily the true answer.

          This is one of the distinguishing features between this type of test and the more straight forward IQ tests (such as the old favourite, the Cattell test) which don't try to confuse you with information that you may already know to be false.

          The speed of doing this test can be enhanced by not needing to read through all the information given in some of the questions. Some of them are exactly the same information with just a change in the question at the end. You should be able to recognise these once you have the knowledge that they occur.

          I did the full test and got 86.7%. All this shows is that I'm good at doing tests. For example: for someone to successfully become a member of Mensa they have to achieve a certain percentage in one of the IQ tests that they supervise. This only shows that you are capable of doing well in the test but says nothing about whether you can successfully fill a position in a job - or be a socially adept person.

          Aptitude tests are of more use than IQ tests for seeing whether someone is suitable for a particularly but these still have many faults.

          Whoops! Sorry about the lecture :sad: but I think that particular test that you have done is a poor example of a test, and I'm sure that they don't expect anyone to get a high percentage when doing it seriously - as you may have to do.

          So don't worry yourself too much. Over 50% is a pretty reasonable achievement.
           
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          As I recall, the Civil Service was stuffed to the brim with qualified idiots.
          Jenny namaste
          ( ex. CS- unqualified)
           
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            What do you mean, "was"? :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
             
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              Still no word re the vetting, except to say that they "hope" to have it completed by end of next week.

              I have been offered an interim job starting Wednesday next week, so will be on a week's notice after that. Money's poor but it will keep the wolf from the door for a while.
               
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              Hiya merle.

              It's always a worry when something hangs on just one thing. It does though sound like you've overcome the main obstacle, getting to this stage. Good luck:blue thumb:
               
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              No news is "good" news in a way and I reckon they'll be pleased to know that you are not sitting idle in the meantime. Thinking of you Merle,
              Jenny
               
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                First day of the interim job today. Could have done without the migraine and nausea!

                Wish me luck, I feel so nervous.
                 
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                Good luck, Merle :wub2:

                I've come out in sympathy (migraine and nausea :sad: ) but I'm thinking of you - and you'll be fine :dbgrtmb:
                 
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                I'm there too Merle - willing it to all go smoothly for you to. Take some nice oxygenating deeeeep breaths and breathe out slowly. Do 5 of those whilst you wait,
                Jenny
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                Hope your day goes well Merle!! All the best!!
                 
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