Cineraria?

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  1. Sheal

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    I've just been looking at my plant encyclopaedia wanting to check facts about Cineraria. I looked it up and it said look at Pericallis, but they are two completely different plants.

    Have they got it wrong or am I missing something please?
     
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    Pericallis is a graft of cineraria , that no one know .
    but cineraria is a family of plant , search again .
     
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      I just checked with Google and it quotes
      'In the past, the genus was commonly viewed in a broader sense including a number of species from the Canary Islands and Maderia which are now transferred to the genus Pericallis, including the Florists Cineraria (Pericallis x hybrida)'. They both belong to the family asteraceae.
       
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        Thanks Sal, I've had another look but it still doesn't make sense to me. I have both plants in my garden and I know Pericallis as 'Senetti' but my book reference doesn't seem to tie the two together, although one points to the other. :scratch:

        Cineraria
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        Pericallis
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        I think , you are try to overwinter the sonnetti , simple lift it up and bring indoor , the sonnetti is a graft , the base of Cineraria with another plant that no one know.
        So in case you will leave it outdoor , the top part of the plant will die and no more flower next year .
        that why you got such of intence color is the natural poison of the base and the top.
        look at this grafted cactus one grow on the top of another cactus , both cactus but not the same family , so the top one change color .
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        Sheal I think your Cineraria looks like Cineraria 'Silver Dust' which I admit doesn't really resemble the Pericallis but if you look up the 'Florists Cineraria' you can see the resemblence. Google Cineraria and you will see that there are many varieties that look like Pericallis.
         
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        Sheal, look up Senecio for Cineraria Silver Dust.:smile:
         
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        Thank you everyone for your help. :)

        Sal............The Senetti (Pericallis) was planted three years ago and has bloomed profusely each year. It doesn't die back during the winter and stays green, if a little scruffy all year round. :)
         
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          Hi Sheal , didn`t notice that you live on the Isle of Man , sure you don`t get the -14 i got :dbgrtmb:
           
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          When you say "Cineraria" I think of the potted house-plants:

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          which look at lot more like your Pericallis than they do your Cineraria (which I would have called Senecio too!) - dunno if that helps make the connection?
           
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          Just to confuse things even more Kristen, Pericallis according to my research is the same plant as Senecio, of which Senetti is the name it sells under. I wish somebody would get the naming of plants sorted out and stick to either it's common or Latin name. we have the same problems when it comes to Pelargoniums/Geraniums etc. :scratch:
           
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          Sal,

          I have just located the plastic label for the plant.........at the top it says Senetti and at the bottom in small print it says Pericallis hybrid.

          On the back it says the following.......Senetti produces masses of small to medium sized flowers, which have a long flowering period, large plants can carry in excess of 100+ flowers at it's peak. Senetti is a spring flowering patio plant which will tolerate temperatures down to freezing. It is safe to plant outside from late March onwards providing the plant has been grown cool.

          Usage: Ideal for patio containers and can also be used for border plantings.
          Habit: Upright and bushy 25 to 35cm.
          Position: Partial shade
          Maintenance: Prior to planting water well. Senetti are heavy feeders and drinkers, the use of a slow release fertiliser is recommended and in addition feed regularly with plant food throughout the plants life. For continuous flowering cut back the top of the plant to the foliage (approx 10cm) after flowering and reflowering will occur in 3-4 weeks.

          It would seem my plant is growing and flowering against all odds. I planted it straight into sandy soil in a bed and it's never been fed. Bearing in mind that a sandy soil drains extremely well it doesn't seem to suffer from lack of water or nutrients.

          Regarding the above quote 'will tolerate temperatures down to freezing', mine has survived -8 with no problems. It's obviously a tough plant. :)
           
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            My plant survived as well , but it lost the top , it was one of the deep blue but when it start to regrown in spring the flower where yellow just like a Cineraria or senecio , I couldn`t understand what`s was going on , then I was looking on internet to understand and find out that it`s a graft .....that explained why the color of the flower was different , the base of the plant was hardier then the top.

            This thread start to be confusing , could you please tell us what do you want to know about the Cineraria.

            I rekon the sonnetti can take -7 , but because you gave a got drainage it can may take more ....well done for that :dbgrtmb:
             
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              I actually wanted to find out whether Cineraria (Silver Dust) was an annual or perennial when I got 'bogged down' in all of this. I've now checked it out on the web and it seems it's classed as a half hardy perennial but grown as an annual.

              I will leave the plants that I've grown in the ground this winter and see how they have faired next spring. :)

              Thanks everyone for your help. :)
               
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                I have "cineraria" they are just silver leafed, some produce little yellow daisy like flowers. I have them in large plant pots 24" and they just come back each year, well two so far, they are strong plants for me, about 24" high, and just provide background for the coloured flowers I have

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