Quick questionnaire?!

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    Having spent some years in the advertising industry I know that most businesses hire and leave the marketing arrangements to those companies that are specialist. Even then I can remember the company I worked for resorting to buying market population trends for £150,000 from another marketing company. The Client was pushing for immediate information and so we trusted the other company.....wrong!! The trend information was out of date, useless and valueless. Marketing "intelligence" or information is sold daily between companies and a lot of it is complete rubbish with companies bending the information to suit their purpose. When you buy from a Supermarket, shop, or the Net using a debit or credit card, that information is stored; used and sold globally to companies interested in what you buy. Even the Local Councils are prone to selling your personal information to private companies to swell their coffers. But all of that gathering and storing doesn't make the information accurate.
    I think my point here is that Students are not specialists or experts in raising and compiling Surveys. Students have to start somewhere initially when first submitting a survey and, if the Student does not get any help or advice, then taking the first step can be a bit naive but also, to me, takes courage. I know I would have, and have, spent hours of careful consideration in compiling a survey, and after all that have had someone question the viability of the survey. If you give it some thought you too would be hesitant about compiling one, knowing that someone some where would be critical of what you thought was a good survey from your efforts.
    As I said earlier we've all suffered from questionnaires and surveys sent by companies, local authorities, had people knocking on the door with marketing surveys asking questions that seemed innocuous, strange, and personal and seemingly pointless and badly put together. How many times have you read in the newspapers and seen on TV where a large organisation has got something completely wrong after supposedly getting public opinions via a marketing survey.
    Perhaps we need a survey on the subject.:heehee::snork:
     
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      Rich,
      some of the more senior GC members have put a fair amount of useful advice here and it would be nice to think that it will be of use to you, so please can you let us know?
      many thanks,
      Jenny namaste
       
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      I agree 100%

      My point is that sometimes it seems that no thought goes into them. By the time someone gets as far as university, if they are absolutely serious about what they want to achieve, then they will have at least got the basics right. I wonder how many of them run a pilot survey first just to see if they've missed anything obvious?

      If nobody was critical of a student's work, then what chance would they have of ever getting it right?
       
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        Again, I agree with you, Clueless, although I think Rich might be sucking in his breath as he probably did spend a fair amount of time and thought putting the survey together.:heehee:
        University or not, if we assume that this is Rich's first attempt at a survey to gather information for his project, then I, personally, don't think it was a bad attempt. We all have different ways in approaching a subject and if you take, for example, your "fish and chip" Survey, I would bet that if different members of GC did a survey on that subject they would approach and ask the questions in such a way that somebody would criticise it.
        "Criticism is good for the soul" one of my Mentors once told me and if given in a sensitive way, with the intention of improving the originators abilities, then I would agree. But the critic has to be aware that his/her opinion have to take in the possibility that the subject was researched and that the survey questions did adequately cover the information and extract the information required by the originator despite it not being in a format agreeable to the critic. If a huge commercial organisation or Local Authority can get the compilation of a survey completely wrong, then I think a Student can be forgiven for innocuous questions or a seemlngly inadequate survey, especially if they learn from it. :snork:
         
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          Of course, the thing here is that you are all correct (I get a sore bum from sitting on the fence :)) and to know the purpose of the survey would affect the result.

          As Bertrand Russell said " The observer, when he seems to himself to be observing a stone, is really, if physics is to be believed, observing the effects of the stone upon himself."

          I'm on a panel that fills in professionally compiled surveys where we know the purpose of the survey. They still end up with some ambiguous questions but they always ask for feedback and allow space for us to qualify, and quantify, our answers.

          Rich, don't be put off by any of our criticism. It meant to assist and not to hamper. :)
           
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            Hi Rich
            I've completed your survey and I wish you the very best of luck with your degree project :)
            I hope I don't offend, but, while "SurveyMonkey" is a useful tool, to give your research project a more "academic" spin (and to harness great functions for interpreting your survey results), enquire with library services if you have access to "Bristol Online Surveys" (BOS). This is superior to SM and is specifically for academic surveys.

            You should have a designated subject librarian for your degree subject and that is who you should see to enquire about BOS. It is still not too late to redraft your survey using BOS and the statistics can throw up some very interesting points for your project.

            I used it last year for my research project and my tutor commented the my survey was superior to many of my peers (who had relied on SM); I feel sure it added points and we both know just how important every single point is in the final year :)
             
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              True. I should apologise for the tone of my little rant. I stand by my point that sometimes things could be thought through, researched and tested a wee bit better at times, but I didn't mean to imply that no thought ever goes into these things. I'm sure it does.

              My stance is always to try to encourage people, especially students who are clearly trying to achieve something good (otherwise why bother with a degree at all?). Sometimes though I'm terribly, shockingly bad at it and I come across in totally the wrong way.
               
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                On that note ....

                ... Rich, before you circulated your survey, did you ask your project tutor to "test" it? That is their job. Also, with BOS, you can authorise access on a "draft", so your tutor could trial it and then you set it live. By permitting your tutor to trial it, any glitches or edits can be sorted in advance :)
                 
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                  Rich,
                  we're patiently waiting for you,
                  Jenny namaste
                   
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                    I'm thinking that after his first post he'll only be viewing the survey.:heehee:
                     
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                      Ditto!

                      Which is such a pity when people have shared their wisdom and experience. Ho hum.
                       
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