2013 Onion Growing Challenge

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  1. JWK

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    Oh that's a shame Freddy, this is where I got mine:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140368667501 - they only took 2 or 3 days to arrive in the post, he must be selling fresh seed as mine germinated within a week.
     
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      That appears to be a substandard size/split/divided pack as it's only 30 seeds and a standard pack from Johnsons contains 120 seeds, such as from here (same seller) and with a use by 2015 use by date http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140825823290?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

      Did you get your seeds in original packaging with use by dates?
       
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      Yes you are right Scrungee, the seller has re-packaged into poly bags (with a label saying sow by 2015) and a B/W photo-copy of the growing instructions. I'm still happy though as I only intend to grow a dozen at most.
       
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      OK, I suppose if you'd bought the full size double packs, sown the lot and got 2 kg average size onions from them all, you'd have got over 1,000 lbs of onions. But I do like onions (and leeks and spring onions and shallots and garlic and chives).
       
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        Same here, we get through a lot of onions, I will be growing a couple of hundred 'normal' sets of different varieties including shallots plus garlic of course. Onions are the one thing I'm self-sufficient in, they store so well my last years harvest will keep us going till mid-summer. If these giant onions prove a success I will grow more, just that I'm not so sure how long they will store for.
         
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          Hiya John.

          Already ordered from Johnsons:blue thumb: I saw those on e-bay, but decided on a full pack.
           
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            And I thought that I'd got a serious allium habit.

            I sowed some more Kelsae, Robinsons Mammoth Red and some Ailsa Craig (standard size onions) today together with a load of leeks and my T&M spring planting garlic has just been delivered - 7 packs of 9 bulbs, so at least 300 plump cloves with loads of runts for eating. Plus I've got autumn planted onion sets & garlic and I'm also sowing early spring onions under lights.
             
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              Hello chums:)

              My replacement seed turned up today, so I'll sow them tomorrow. I'll put them in pots to be placed on a windowsill somewhere. Something that puzzles me is....in the past, I've had problems with germination when I've used a heated propagator (sowing in March)and made subsequent sowings without any heat, which were successful. At a guess I'd say that the minimum temperatures at that time would be maybe 5-7c? Also, Onions can be sown outdoors from March(?) onwards. Any thoughts?
               
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                I can't explain that Freddy, I always get better results using my heated propagator.
                 
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                Hiya John.

                I was wondering if one can give too much heat, even if it's not (on the face of it) very much?
                 
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                Freddy, yes it is possible to overheat seeds so they won't germinate and getting them damp and very hot might even kill them. Have you a max/min thermometer and what are your readings?
                 
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                Hiya John

                I got myself one of those min/max electronic thermometers that Scrunge uses. My minimum is around 14c and max around 25c, although one day it got up to around 28c. In the back of my mind I seem to recall the phrase 'gentle heat':dunno:
                 
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                  I'm a bit worried about my onions,they seem to have missed the 'crook' stage and are getting taller too quick:dunno: my temperatures are the same as yours Freddy,it's a job keeping them on an even keel without a TC propagator....not growing onions before it's hard to judge how they should be but they look healthy enough...so far...
                   
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                  Sounds like they need more light maybe?
                   
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                    Speaking from experience with other veggie seeds I think it helps to get a consistent temp range with no major swings. I'm no expert on onion seeds though.
                     
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