GONE TO SEED

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    Here's an extract from an article in the Amateur Gardening Magazine concerning something a lot of us buy and spend a lot of money on.

     
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      Unless we make your own Armandii,we are at the mercy of the High Street vendors. Birds aren't that daft as the article says, and anything is better than starving to death surely? Most bits that are discarded are consumed by others, one way or the other. The biggest danger is stale seed left neglected to rot in feeders as this can be fatal. The French, along with most other nations, reckon we're all mad cow daft with our obsession for feeding wild birds in our gardens,
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      Well, the French are partial to a garden bird for lunch I believe.:sofa: :snork:
       
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      The last lot of fatballs i bought from wilkos have still not all been eaten,usually i go through 8 a week plus peanuts and birdseed.
      I made a big one myself last week based on a recipe scotkat gave me and even the squirrel raided it :blue thumb: so i will be making more :)
       
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        Just shows you, home cooked is the best.:heehee:
         
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          Peanut butter in the mix is yummy thou :biggrin:
           
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          What really astounds me is that price difference of certain brands being sold in different outlets; our local Just for Pets is very expensive for bird food, for example a 550g pouch of suet pellets costs just shy of £5 in there and yet I can get the exact same product for £1.98 off a guy on the market and £2.49 from Wilkos!!!

          I get most of my bird food from the guy on the market or our small independant pet shop; both cheaper and both sell quality food. The pet shop has some fantastic mixes that he puts together him self, a favourite being his 'fruit & nut' mix, it contains about 30-40% standard mixed seed and ample sultanas, raisins, crushed nuts & whole nuts, occasionally he puts dried berries in too if he can get some. He is very knowledgeable and leaves out whole nuts when baby birds are about to remove the risk of choking.

          Regarding the fat balls I used to always buy the cheap ones from Home Bargains, 49p for 6, they used to be lovely and moist and would be all eaten within a day or two but recently they have changed to very dry hard balls and the birds barely touch them!!!
           
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          Its the same with wilkos they're rock hard now! prob why the birds aint touched them hardly,i might email wilkos:mad: see what they changed!
          Never thought to look in pet shops :blue thumb:
           
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          I get tubs of 50 Fat Balls for £5.99p and 15kg sacks of mixed seed for around £15/16.
          I always check the type of seed in the sacks as they have transparent panels. Let's face it, one type of bird likes some seeds, while other types like other seeds and they will chuck out the ones they don't want, even if to us it's good seed.:snork:
           
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            You spend like armani :heehee: how long does it all last you? x
             
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            My dad has just bought us a 20kg sack of mixed seed from his 'supplier' in Cheshire, its a very good quality mix :dbgrtmb: , not like the cheap mixes in many shops, this has sunflower hearts, crushed peanuts, sunflower seeds, corn etc. I use this as the base of our mix and then add the 'fruit & nut' mix, some suet pellets and mealworms. This mix then goes out on our tables and in a ground hopper, I also have a seperate mix for feeders that doesn't have the bigger stuff in that would block them :)
             
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              Cheeky!!!! Buying in bulk is cheaper. A tub of 50 balls will last the Winter and into the Spring as it's the Tits that frequent that feeder, although I have seen 8 Long Tailed Tits on it at the same time. 15kg of seed will last two months using 3 feeders, partly because I recycle the seed thrown out of the feeders into the big saucers, on the bottom of the feeders, back into the feeders. I do lose a proportion to rain damage when the seed gets wet from lying in the saucers, even though there are drainage holes. I tried drying the wet seed out but it's not always successful.
               
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                I bought a pack of suetballs from Poundland recently as they were 8 for, can't remember the price?:biggrin: but the Sparows didn't like them and were there four days later. Other suetballs go immediately.
                The quality does vary.
                Some of the bits of the balls falls on the ground and then you find a green patch of wheat or something has germinated which have to be removed straight away. :frown:
                 
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                Our birds are quite fussy. We usually buy fairly expensive good quality seed but I decided to try some seed from a very large, independent, pet place near us. It's a very popular place that fills three large farm barns and is busy all the time. The birds wouldn't eat their seed! After three weeks of them hardly eating any I changed it back to the original seed and, after a couple of days, they all came back.

                I only have hanging bird feeders and they get through 20kgs in six weeks :rolleyespink:. It's an expensive hobby! I haven't seen any deterioration in the quality and the birds haven't complained. A lot of seed does get dropped on the ground as the small birds seem to throw it everywhere but the pheasants, magpies and squirrel seem quite happy to clear up under the feeder.
                 
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                  Even from the same supplier / manufacturer I find a big variation in quality, therefore consumption.

                  The current batch 49p for 6 from Home Bargains are proving quite popular with our birds.

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