2013 Onion Growing Challenge

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  1. JWK

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    Well done FC !
     
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      Heartwarming indeed Jenny - I now feel as though the gardening season has truly begun. :)
       
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        So - you're up,up and away FC. I am still being "sensible" and making myself wait until March ;)
         
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        I'm off to a slow start - won't be doing my toms for another few weeks yet at least - need to see the temps coming back up first.
         
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          Well done FC, looking good:blue thumb:
           
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            Nice sprouts FC......:biggrin:
            Seriously....looking good:dbgrtmb:
             
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            I'm not entirely sure I follow this Freddy. Right now the natural daylength is 9.5 hours and steadily increasing. You are providing artificial light for 9 hours and proposing to decrease it? Then yours will be out of step with the natural daylength when they eventually go outside and subject to increasing daylengths until mid-summer? You might end up with confused onions?
             
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            Hiya John.

            Currently, daylight starts at around 7am here. It's dark by around 6:15pm. My lighting comes on at 1pm and goes off at 10pm. My thinking there was to supplement and extend normal daylight. So, that makes a total of 15 hours of varying degrees of light. At some point, they will have to go without supplemental light, and this is the part that concerns me. They will go from 15 hours of light to whatever the daylight hours are at the time, maybe 10 hours?

            My thinking was that if I reduce the 'lit-up' time bit by bit (in line with the lengthening days) it wouldn't come as big a shock when the lighting is no longer available.

            Maybe I gave them too much light to start with?:dunno:
             
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              Ah, I'm with you now Freddy. For some reason I thought you were growing your's indoors and only had artificial light.


              Yes I agree with you.

              Even though my onions are in the greenhouse I'm not considering the natural sunlight as being worthwhile at the moment. Mostly I've got them covered in fleece and sometimes bubblewrap during the cold, so that cuts down amount of natural light even more.

              I'm adjusting my light timer to come on and off at the same time as sunrise/sunset.

              Dunno, but you may have hit on a method of getting really big ones?
               
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                Hiya John, an interesting read, thanks.

                This part got me thinking...

                Maybe instead of reducing the amount of time the lighting is switched on, I could maybe re-align the timing? For instance, to start with I could have the lighting come on at say mid-day and turn off at 9pm. If I did this in stages until it was in line with the 'normal' daylight hours, that might work? What do you think?
                 
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                How I used to set my light timing was as follows;

                I looked at sunrise / sunset times in my diary and set my timer to come on two hours before sunrise and go off two hours after sunset.

                Rather than change the set up daily I would do it once a week which I found much easier.

                My lights remained on all day because because we seem to get more overcast days rather than sunny/ bright weather.

                If I was around on a sunny day I would sometimes over ride the settings and switch off!
                 
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                  Hiya Tee Gee.

                  The problem I have with having them come on early, is that the lighting disturbs my neighbours sleep! Also, this doesn't address my concerns about what will happen when the lighting is no longer available, which sooner or later, is inevitable.

                  Cheers...Freddy
                   
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                  Maybe these concerns are unfounded?

                  It's just that I recall something Kristen said, about Onions reacting to shorter days by 'bulbing' up:dunno:
                   
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                  As someone who doesn't use artificial lighting, I can't really give any advice other than why use it unless you can maintain it? It's not necessary unless you are very serious about growing monsters! In which case you have all manner of other considerations to take into account, planting out, feeding.... the list goes on.

                  Yes, I'd love to grow a huge onion on the scale of Peter Glazebrook but there is a limit to the amount of steak and onions I can eat! :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                   
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