Permanently seal up - or not?

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    When we built my new greenhouse last year, the ground that we were building on was on a bit of a slope, so we built a base from treated timber which was chocked up at one end, with the other end (door end) being completely level - picture below shows it better than I can explain:

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    Now, as its been winter, my greenhouse is yet to get used in full anger - but, its not far off being pressed into service.

    I was going to block up the gaps under the framework with ply or similar wood screwed onto the inside of the base - - however, I got to thinking that leaving them open would allow for easy cleaning (water run off) and could potentially help ventilation as I don't have any low down louvres (only four roof vents).

    So, do I block them up permanently, or with something removable (not sure what), or just leave them as is?
     
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    If you are not using it in the winter, you could leave the gap as ventilation as you say, might let a few mice in though.
    If you ever intend heating, then it needs blocking up.

    Looks like a nice size.:blue thumb:
     
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      Is there not a risk that the gaps will allow wind to get under it and explode the whole thing? Maybe its strong enough to take it, but I remember leaving the door of my dad's greenhouse open on a windy day once while I went into the house to get something. I came back out just in time to see it explode, literally. It was instantly destroyed.
       
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      Blimey, I bet you wern't popular.:biggrin:
       
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        + slugs and snails. As my greenhouse is next to the hen run I have a constant battle to trap mice (attracted by hen food) before they get into pots & seed trays and either eat all the seeds or dig them out and bury them elsewhere, such as in other seed trays so also destroying the other seeds in them. Or you might find you've created some winter quarters for rats.
         
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        My vote would have to be Permanently Seal Up for the reasons listed by the others, and then their are the icy winds that are about at this time of year.

        I also think the gaps would cause a draft rather than ventilate!

        But in the end the choice is yours ;)
         
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        It shouldnt get much wind underneath judging by how close the fence is. I`d be tempted to clad those walls with 2" rigid insulation to reflect light and reduce heatloss.
         
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        Its managed to get through the winter without exploding, thankfully - must admit that is a point I never even considered.

        I did wonder about mice etc getting in, so between that and slugs, it looks like I will have to do something permanent.

        Hex - going by the heat that built up in there on the few warmish days that were left at the back end of the year, would the rigid insulation not make it too hot? Not sure about fixing it in place either really?
        I do have some bubble wrap type insulation in the shed that has a foil backing that I could use, but again would it be too much heat wise?

        I'll need to get some ply or something and get the saw out....

        pete - its a 10ft x 8ft, so hopefully it will give me plenty of space to bring on my seedlings, and then later on will be a good space for my cucumbers, tomatoes and peppers. Not intending on using it for winter growing as yet, but in a couple of years once my outgoings settle a bit, I might just start heating it with an electric heater and get a real head start each year.
         
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        I put my greenhouse at my last house on treated wood, and 4 years later when I moved it, the wood was rotting and disintegrating, even though it was treated.

        My current greenhouse is on a brick base.

        Also, if you are going to use the greenhouse in winter, and especially if it is heated, I would block up any gaps, as it will let cold air in.

        My greenhouse is also on a slope. I have drilled a small hole into the base at the lowest point to allow water to flow out.
         
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        What's the orientation? (because from the pic it looks like 2 sides are bounded by high fencing and lining with Mylar on those sides might increase the amount of light available to plants.
         
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        One side is bounded by the shed (until I move the shed) and the rear is bounded by the fence - maybe a 6-8 inch gap between the greenhouse and them. The doors are roughly north-west facing, so the main 'sunny side' is mostly west facing
         
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        To me, any heat/light at the start or end of the season is valuable, sunny days in winter are priceless. Fixing insulation panels vertically is probably easier than wrestling with bubblewrap, all you`d need is a couple of horizontal cords or laths to hold them in place.
         
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        I'll have a look at them and see if I can figure out how best they would fit etc before I go using the greenhouse in winter. Thanks :)
         
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        So is the rear (presumably next to a neighbour's fence) roughly south facing, and the east facing long side next to the shed that will be moved?
         
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        This might make it easier - this is an overhead view of my wee plot, with the location of the greenhouse drawn on, courtesy of Google, with the top of the pic being north.

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        Its in the shade in the morning (which is when this overhead must have been taken judging by the shadows being cast), and gets the sun in the afternoon onto one of the longest sides (slightly dappled with shade by the tree, which has now been trimmed quite a bit)
         
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