How do i introduce this topic without looking like a weirdo?

well I agree

I can only see a military future though... and to be fair its probably the only way forward.. if we want to eventually traverse space, live longer etc etc, it may be the only way to do it. I can definitely see the ethical conundrum though.

That said, there will always be areas of the world that live a tranditional life.

 

But they had so much fun

 

I think you're overlooking one major point. I hate to be the pessimist but mother nature usually organises a cull once a species gets out of control. We're already starting see new bugs that are resistant to antibiotics. Once you have a dense population with germs that are resistant to antibiotics, and those bugs have mutated (as they do) to trick our immune systems, it will be like another plague. Numbers will be reduced significantly, and as your future society has become so dependent on the well oiled machine, the whole thing would fall apart. Chaos would result and those not dying of lurgy would be killing each other in panic or starving because they have no idea how to produce or find food, and the person that sells it has popped his clogs. All that's assuming it didn't end in war. If you have people living in towers miles high, it wouldn't take much to wipe out a significant chunk of the population, and because everyone would be so depending on 'the machine', again once that machine is bust, again the result would be chaos. It all means that your future hive type society could never happen, certainly not for any sustained period. Another thing to consider is this. Bees live in hives. They routinely force the lower ranks to work until they die of exhaustion, and it is documented that they even have civil wars when another bee will decide to be queen, and the rest of the swarm with divide in factions, each faction favouring a different queen, and then they fight. See, in nature, there is no such thing as a well oiled machine. We can't be any different.

 

Very interesting topic, both my father and I did witness an unexplained object in the sky. A few weeks later an article appeared in the news paper, apparently many others saw it. It was never explained.

I believe there is other life, advanced life and I also think there are many things we don't know. Things science doesn't even know about so I believe in an open mind.

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Haven't overlooked it at all, in fact I'm in full agreements about nature... many people get upset because we're destroying rainforests, but my opinion is that people hate this because they tend to separate us and nature.. the reality is everything we do is natural, and nature works us... in my opinion, looking at the history of the demise of other planets like Mars, we are starting the ball rolling for the end of Earth.. I believe we are the species to start the ball rolling for the end of life on Earth as nature 'requires'... however, I believe we have the option to survive if we want... but that involves getting off this planet.

I don't believe nature would cull us because were out of control.. I believe it's complex between us and nature, which much of it requires we can survive.. but it will get more difficult in time, but I believe humanity will survive, we haven't had anyone as intelligent, technologically since Earth was formed, so for survival, this is new territory, we have got a lot to prove.

Nature doesn't discriminate between conservation and opportunity thought, that's for sure.

 

I had another thought on this. I'm sure its already been thought of so I can't take the credit for pioneering new thinking

What if we are the most technologically advance species in the universe? The odds of that sound fairly remote, but maths is a funny thing. Even with the tiniest probability, one thing has to be the thing. When it comes to being the most technologically advanced species, why not us? Assuming there are other races (which we don't really know either way), the odds of us being top are the same as the odds of any other one being top.

The boffins tell us the universe as we know it has been around for something like 14 billion years. Earth has been around for about 6 billion of those years we're told. That means our planet is nearly half the age of the universe. We're told that earth is here because it very gradually coalesced from early matter (gas) then dust, then little bits of grit, and so on and so on. Given that the universe had to go through many stages to make those gases and dust in the first place, everywhere in the universe would have had a similar start.

So once our earth was formed, it then took who knows how many millenia to settle down and cool enough to be something other than a ranging fireball, and then its taken most of that 6 billion years for natural processes to get us to where we are now. Other parts of the universe would have had similar history and similar challenges, and indeed it is known that there are celestial objects out there much, much younger than our bit.

So I reckon, based on this, I reckon it is possible that the reason we've never met or spoken to any aliens yet, could simply be that there are none clever enough.

Last point, if if there are some aliens clever enough, they'd have had to have been clever enough for thousands or even millions of years for us to hear from them now, depending on where they are and if they happened to use radio in the same way that we do, and for them to answer us, they'd need to be within about 100 light years from us, which is about how far our radio signals could have got. Realistically much, much nearer, because early radio was a bit rubbish, and would have easily been lost in cosmic background radiation.

 

Probably wrong to mention in this thread but how do crop circles appear I saw one and dont belive any human can do that over night in a few hours maybe alien ??