When Will It Change ?.

The Doomsday Greens must be the only people happy with our current weather

 

Oh I dont know, I guess all politicians will be quite happy, justifies their position regarding taxing us to the hilt and building wind farms.

Strange how "global warming" became "climate change" after the cold winter of 2009/10.

 

Well how did they justify the fact that we had a very cold winter when their predictions indicated the temps would go up?
I know, let's change the terms and paramaters.

 

There's plenty of evidence that there have been many episodes of sudden climate change on earth, the latest one (excluding the current) one was around 2000 years ago I believe, when a relatively sudden sea level rise caused thousands of germanic folks to come here as refugees after losing bits of their land.

There are also many instances along the north east coast (and probably elsewhere) of Anglo Saxon settlements on the bed of the north sea. Whole villages that were once obviously on land, now under the sea.

There is no doubt that the climate is changing, significantly and quickly, but is it caused by man kind? I'm not convinced. Not when the you have one bunch of boffins telling us it most definitely is and by the early 21st century (now) Britain should be as hot as North Africa (this is what we were told in the late 1980s), another group telling us it will get like North Africa, but not until 2050, another group telling us it will get colder and we'll end up with weather like Russia, where it is very bitter in winter. And then we get some boffins telling us its our fault, other boffins telling us its natural, and yet a noticeable absence of boffins telling us that they have no idea what's happening.

The trouble is, there is always 'evidence' available to support the claims of any of these camps of boffins. We had a series of mild winters in a row for a few years, supporting the 'its definitely warming like we said it would' camp, then we have a few normal winters with actual snow in it that supports the 'We told you it would get colder' camp.

Nobody can get the weather right for the next week, yet we're expected to take their word for it when they tell us what will happen in the next decade. The MET office themselves were ridiculed a couple of years ago when they were forced to admit that their climate model was wrong. I'll admit it even if nobody else will. I don't have a clue what's happening, and I have even less clue as to whether or not its our fault.

 

Climate change and Global warming appear not to be as interchangeable as people first thought. Global warming can occur under the guise of climate change, however global warming suggests a warming of the Earth (we can tick that box as accepted fact), climate change was relatively recent thought, and it was after climatologists realised well as a result of warming the Earth's attempt at restoring an equilibrium will result in some very extreme weather.. this extreme weather includes general pattern shifts, which is what we are witnessing. it is the Climate change that would impact humanity more than Global warming.

Therefore Climate Change hasn't replaced global warming as a term, it's just a way of describing a symptom of global warming.

I mean think about it... Australia recorded their record hottest summer.. so naturally the Earth will want to restore some equal to it's own system.. so the way of doing that is by giving Europe a very cold period.

 

"so naturally the earth will want to restore some equal to its own system"?????????

Where does that thinking come from Stephen?

Sounds a bit "human" in response, and I dont think nature is "human", god help us if it thinks like we do.

Its a bit like expecting a hot summer just because we had a cold winter.

 

I received this email today which I thought might be relevent to this thread

March 2000:

"According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event". "Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said. (Independent)​

March 2013:

The Aftermath of last week's [snow] storms is causing terrible hardships for many farmers. (BBC today)​

AND ... WINTER weather has killed a million Brits since the 1980s and will kill a million more by 2050, experts have warned. (GWPF)​

And they call us "deniers"?
How many of these farmers who are now suffering have been deluded by the nonsense on "global warming" to bring forward lambing earlier and have now been caught out by University of East Anglia propaganda? In what other area of life would an expert make a categorical statement like the UEA which causes so much damage and heartache, sends government policy off in totally the wrong direction and then not suffer the consequences?
A driver this morning was charged for dangerous driving when a pram was blown out into the road.
There's no suggestion that there was intention, but a life was lost, damage was done and the police "have to" investigate. But when a University acts in such a way to cause far more deaths and economic damage ... it's OK Vincent. Who cares how many older people died because you misdirected public policy? Who cares how many farmers took your nonsense about warming and relied on your expertise to change their practices with such disastrous consequences?

I didn't write the above but do agree with the sentiment, especially as I am surrounded by sheep, many lambs and ewes ARE dying despite all possible efforts.

All I do know is that I and an ever increasing number of people are fighting tooth and nail to try and stop the avalanch of wind farm applications which have overwhelmed our Council and have become a political tool, certainly in Scotland.I'm no NIMBY or "tree hugger", I have facts and figures to back up that the LAST thing windfarms are, is "green".. I have never before got involved in any kind of protests, however, the obscene amounts of money being wasted in lining the pockets of landowners/developers and destruction of our countryside has made me feel I have to do something. We've already fought and won a case locally which I hasten to add didn't affect us personally, ie wouldn't have been able to see/ hear it from our home. Cost to us and our neighbours in doing so £124,000. How on earth did it cost that amount? I hear you ask, because we HAD to have a specialist London barrister to oppose the applicant's specialist London barrister...simples. If we had left it to our council to fight they'd have lost as they don't have the man hours/resources to put forward a strong enough case to fight foreign investors who have SO much to gain. What monetary gain did we achieve from winning? £0. Since winning our case 3 further applications for the SAME site have been lodged. Can we afford to fight all of them? NO. Why does the applicant keep going? money and lots of it!
Fact confirmed by Scottish Power. The greatest demand for electricity is when the weather is cold,damp and foggy. What don't you have in these conditions? WIND!

 

Well I don't mean god willing... Just that the Earths system wants/has/needs to create a geographical equilibrium... Apologies if it came across that way, I meant more in a systematic sense.

 

Negative oscillations are indications of high pressure over Greenland, which then can ridge southwards creating a block. In winter this means cold northerlies becoming easterly over time if that oscillation persists. In summer it may mean largely cool weather but with the chance of heat at times, usually these are cool and dry but can be cold and wet if low pressure enters the equation over European continent.

 

So, in winter these things make our weather cold, and in summer they make our weather largely cool but sometimes hot and sometimes dry and sometimes wet.

Sounds like perfectly ordinary life in Britain to me.

 

The normal oscillation over the UK is positive, in the last 20 years anyway, but like any earth system it's cyclical and has phases.

 

Aren't all oscillations cyclic? If something goes one way and then comes back then other way before going the first way again, like a pendulum or a wave, then it can be said to be oscillating. If it swings one way then doesn't come back, its not an oscillation. By that same token, I don't get how there can be positive and negative oscillations, because any oscillation will always centre around zero relative to the the energy of the thing that is oscillating.