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    Daft question, but can't we use poppy seeds meant for cooking?

    http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/sain...ts_and_seeds/sainsburys_poppy_seeds_100g.html

    I don't know what variety they are, but if we can find out and they are the right ones, I imagine it would be infinitely cheaper than getting 'proper' ones.

    Unless maybe they are treated in some way to prevent them from germinating, but I know you can grow supermarket dried peas so maybe these too?

    EDIT: It looks like not. A bit of reading suggests that the ones you get in the supermarkets are the wrong type, plus a few articles I've read suggest a poor germination rate from them.
     
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    Ok .. The choice where you buy seeds from is entirely yours, but for information purposes only. Thompson and Morgan will donate 10p from every packet of Flanders Poppy seeds sold to the British Legion

    Every penny helps .......
     
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      Pretty sure they are Opium Poppies, just sown a handful to find out.
       
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        Hi nfrost
        Think there is a major opportunity for all garden centres and nurserys to get involved aswell ... They could sell a number of different varieties of poppy as plant of the month ? Maybe give a percentage of a fixed donation to the British legion per plant sold ...could turn in to a national campaign ............. Raise the profile and raise some serious money aswell ...this with our project would be amazing
         
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          Agreed, we could use them to get the poppies spread around the country, ease our workload, and get charitable donations to the BL.

          Win, win, win.
           
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          Forgive me, I'm just trying to understand this, but am I right in thinking that we have gone from trying to source seeds cheap through either donations, negotiated deals, or by collecting and sharing seeds from our own plants, to generating a marking campaign for seed suppliers?

          Of course I have no problem with that, but I'm just trying to understand the plan so I can work out if it is something I personally would like to be involved in.
           
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          Think the ones sold in garden centres would be pot grown varieties unlike the wild seed used in the hedgerows verges etc

          These "wild "seeds wouldn't grow correctly as a pot plant unfortunately , but this does give the garden centres a chance to sell a wide variety of poppies under our idea umbrella as long as the legion benefitted ....
           
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          Why? I have poppies in my garden that self seed every year.
           
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          Just brainstorming I guess. What is our ultimate goal?
           
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          Wild poppies don't like to live in disturbed ground.

          And no . We gardeners have a major part to play ... Whether we collect seed / swap seed .. Buy it collectively ... Buy one packet each from local garden centre ..... I don't think it matters how we do it as long as we do it........
          Two chances to make this work ..... Autumn sowing and spring sowing .... In our gardens and on land that we have gained permission from the owners..........
          The idea about garden centres is linked but separate ...... It means that every single person who has a garden. Can become involved ...... Sowing seeds or buying plants
           
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          I think, al, that is the problem, the Thread has become mired in a proliferation of continuing suggestions resulting in confusion and people going down different paths encouraging others on different paths to follow them!!;):dunno::snork:
          If the original idea and suggestion is to raise the profile of the forthcoming Centenary during the Centenary Year then it should do that if carried out properly and legally. However it will not contribute directly to the coffers and funds of the British Legion or it's associated organisations if that is what anyone is thinking, it will as said merely add to the forthcoming marking and marketing of the Centenary.
          Suggestions have been for "Group Buying" or approaching Sponsors for free seeds to cut down the expense. But as I pointed out earlier that is a misconception as the time taken to negotiate and agree such deals, even if possible, and cost of organising, packaging and post will probably mean people paying the same price or more as a retail bought packet so that will negate the purpose of getting something cheaper or for nothing.
          I was a member of the RIF RAF for 22 years so the Services are part of my mental make-up and I do think the original idea is a good one. However we seem to, ourselves, have got caught up in trying to take advantage of the situation by suggesting buying in large amounts to gain a discount or get something for nothing from Sponsors, but in truth that would only benefit to the Retailer or the Sponsor with no real gain for those taking part due to the packaging and postal costs.
          If the idea is such a good one then what is the objection to buying a couple of packets at the normal price from a Nursery or Shop and/or harvesting home grown poppy seeds with the idea of marking the Centenary but not adding to the funds of the British Legion??
          I wouldn't object to pay, say, another 50p or £1 on a British Legion backed packet of Poppies to commemorate the Centenary if I was absolutely sure that the extra money [plus a share of the retail price] would go to the British Legion, but that's a personal choice.
          So, to me, the original idea is to commemorate and mark the Centenary by sowing retail bought and/or home harvested poppy seeds in a way that is legal and will not cause dissension, or throwing a bad light on the event, by sowing in areas without permission. As said it won't add directly to the coffers of the British Legion and anyone wanting to could by contributing the price of a couple of packets of Poppy seeds into the tin of any British Legion or associated organisation when they meet them in the entrance of a Supermarket or in the Town Center.
          It's also obvious that the Marketing World and Retailers will take the opportunity to make a quick profit out of the Centenary if they're not already starting to.
           
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            No objection from me :blue thumb:
             
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            Eh? :scratch::dunno:

            Yes they do, they are one of the first colonisers of disturbed ground. Be it an avalanche, ploughed field or World War one Battlefield???????????????????
             
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            1 twelth of the price of the same product from T&M too:dbgrtmb:

            http://www.thompson-morgan.com/flowers/flower-seeds/poppy-seeds/papaver-rhoeas-flanders/6553TM (times 5 packs to get to the 10,000 seeds in the Amazon ones).

            We could buy the the cheaper ones from Amazon, give the British Legion a quid or two directly, and then we win with cheaper seeds, and they win with more donations:)
             
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