Moving a Rose In July

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    Dear Woo to day I am going to move my Iceberg Rose,its very hot and dry here and the Rose has just started to bloom:)

    Oh no :nonofinger: I hear all the experts say you should wait until later in the year,
    it will not survive the move:nonofinger:

    :smile: But what if I water the roots and then leave the biggest root ball on it that I can?

    No,No,No it is against all the rules and laws of Rose growing :nonofinger:

    :smile: Look In my garden there are no rules,no regulations,just lots of Roses and yours truly;)

    Alright but don't say I didn't tell you :nonofinger:

    Well I am still going to move it ,because rules are meant to guide you not bind you in fact I will do it now:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
     
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      :lunapic 130165696578242 5:

      The problem that I perceive with Roses is that they have substantial individual roots, and you don't have much choice but to sever some of them ... and the plant has to recover from that, and do so in the heat of summer.

      of course if you can take enough soil that no roots are severed and you can water well before, and after (and perhaps reduce the "canopy" a bit to compensate for the reduce root-action) then all will be well.

      But given the type of roots Roses have I its a job I would delay until Autumn. Needs-must though.
       
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        Thank you Kristen for your valuable and welcomed input my friend,I omitted to inform all the experts that this Rose is in its first year(only planted last November) and will delay moving it until this afternoon as its to hot to use a spade at the moment;)
         
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          Ah live dangerously! If only planted in November think you might be ok. I'd give it a good drink before you move it, maybe do as Kristen suggests and reduce the growth and then post move keep misting what remains of the leaves. If the worst comes to the worst you can always drown your sorrows if it legs up with something long cool and refreshing. Good luck!
           
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            Hi Silu my friend can't reduce the growth as I want to keep the new blooms so that they flower,in fact one is just opening,but many thanks for your good advice,so the quicker I move the Rose the quicker I get a cool and refreshing drink:heehee:
             
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              That's good news - hopefully the roots won't have strayed far, nor fattened up too much :)

              I'd just water it heavily each day, maybe twice a day. Perhaps sink a 2L pop-bottle with its bottom cut off, spout first, into the soil as a funnel so that the water you provide goes right close to the plant, and percolates slowly.

              But I'm sure you've already had similar ideas Woo :blue thumb:
               
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                Hi Kristen thanks my friend at the moment I have only half emptied the bottle,but it should be empty by end of day;)
                 
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                There is some incentive then :)
                 
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                  Hi I had to move a 55 yr old rose a month ago from the ground into a massive pot. I cut 30 foot canes back to two foot then cut it and the roots again.. Everything your not ment to be doing I did because we are planning on moving soon and I will not be leaving my roses. The rose now has loads of fresh shoots about 8 inches long. My second old rose same age Ive cut back also to two foot about 2months ago it is now 6 foot 4 inches I measure yesterday. So anything is poss if need be do it good luck to you :)
                   
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                    Good evening Kels many thanks for your valuable and important comments as I am sure all our other Rose loving friends here at GC will see this post and will know what you can do if there is no other options:)

                    Kristen its only home made Dandelion and Burdock;)
                     
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                    I moved one (only a few feet) about a month ago - did nothing with the top of it, just "transplanted" it and it is looking as dead as a Dodo!

                    I did mention it on one of the rose threads here and the advice was: don't give up on it; give it lots of TLC. Well, I'm doing both and it is yet to show any signs of life. Maybe I should chop down the above ground part? :dunno: I do know it was in the ground 3yrs+ (because I've only been here 3 yrs and it was already in residence).

                    Irony is, I only discovered its variety when I moved it (label buried deep in the ground) and it's a "Just Joey".

                    I won't give up on it, but, I must say, it is just a complete (dead looking) mess :cry3: Time will tell, of course. Ultimately: you win some; you lose some. (Just wish I'd taken some 'cuttings' before I thought to move it - ho hum!)
                     
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                      I only have a very small garden and each plant must be worthy of its space so if any particular plant is no longer providing me with any pleasure then in the bin it goes!!! We are having some great weather "M" bin the dead plant and treat yourself to another!!!!:thumbsup:

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                        'M' have a scratch at some of the stems high and low to see if there is any 'green' there, if so leave the plant for a while and may be take cuttings if you can. :)
                         
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                          Hi Val, I have the opposite: a large garden, so I can afford to wait a season or two to see if it will recover/rejuvenate.

                          Hi Sheal, didn't think of the scratch test :doh: I'll give that a go today, thank you.
                           
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                            Good morning M as a last result only if you have to my friend,dig it up trim the roots and the tops get some John Innes No 3 and put it in a pot while you are nursing it back to health,its what we call intensive care;)
                             
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