Is it a rowan tree?

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  1. Rj Brambling

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  2. Phil A

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    Certainly looks like one, can't see any info on wether there are male & female trees so might just be that its too young to flower yet?
     
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    Zigs as far as I know the flowers have both male and female parts.
    But you need flowers first, before any hope of berries.

    It may depend what Sorbus species it is.
    For example Sorbus sargentiana can take up to 15 years before you get berries.
     
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      The individual leaflets look too curved for the rowan we all know.

      Cheers, Tony.
       
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        Certainly looks like a Rowan to me. I have quite a few and some took quite a few years to start to flower/berry. Your tree doesn't look very old? and after having had it 3 years it's not unusual for no flowers and consequently no berries. It looks healthy so maybe next year. As Silver Surfer said you can have to wait a while but to my mind the wait is worth it as Sorbus are my favourite small trees. My Sagentiana has flowered and now has berries for the 1st time after 5 years so not too bad. It's a fabulous tree and well worth being patient! My Cashmiriana on the other hand was quite quick to flower/berry and is groaning with lovely white berries atm.
         
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        Made 5 gallons of Rowan wine when I first moved to Wales, wish I hadn't :sad:
         
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          I agree with Clueless, the leaf and tree structure doesn't look like rowan to me, I don't think it's Rhus either. :scratch:
           
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            Maybe a good close up to show the detail would be helpful.
             
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            Is Rowan not toxic @Zigs?
             
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            Rowan berries (off the native tree, can't say about the ornamental ones you see with different coloured berries) are indeed edible. I only know this because one the TV survivalists (either bear grills or ray mears) once ate some, but then one of them drank the juice out of elephant poo and sucked the inerds out of a live worm. Here's a recipe for using rowan berries.

            http://britishfood.about.com/od/recipeindex/r/rowanjelly.htm
             
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              I don't think it is a Rowan or a Rhus{Sumac{h}} as I have both these trees and the leaves are nothing like this one and at the moment my and everyone elses Rowans and Rhus have either berries or the red flowers that Sumac{h}have at this time of the year...
               
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              Certainly tasted toxic.
               
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                May I suggest you add a pic to show a leaf... and show us.
                The common Rowan is Sorbus aucuparia, but nowadays there are many new wonderful named cultivars. eg Sorbus Chinese lace.
                The leaves on this are markedly different from the ordinary Rowan.( many others are also very different)
                Maybe you could take a leaf from yours to a good garden centre where they sell trees and compare it to the ones being sold.
                Nowadays they can be bought with red, orange, yellow or white berries.
                Small berries or large berries.
                Upright fastigiated trees or small dwarf trees.
                There is so much variation.

                https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sorbus+chinese+lace&client=firefox-a&hs=J69&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=rcs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NmUYUvaIEsvL0AWDp4HQBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1536&bih=735
                 
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