SORRY BUT I STILL DON'T GET IT!

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  1. ARMANDII

    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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    I buy occasionally from e-bay either buying a priced item or an item in an auction. Normally, when winning a bid in an auction I pay the price I've bid which to me makes sense.
    However, recently there have been some e-bay auctions where I've bid above the price of the last bid, won and then tried to pay the price I've bid only to find I only have to pay the reserved price.
    There's no indication of this and I just can't get my head around the reasoning behind it, nor am I complaining, but I just can't see the logic in it. Obviously it means that the highest bidder wins....but then doesn't have to pay the bid price, but why??? If the seller want just the asking/reserved price why not just put it up for sale as normal??. Why put the item up for Auction and then ignore the higher bid prices ?? It means the highest bidder wins, doesn't have to pay the bid price........which means I could bid a Million pounds, win every time [until someone catches on] but only have to pay the asking/reserve price.
    What's the logic behind that??!:scratch::dunno::snork:
     
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    No logic that I can see!!!:scratch: PM the seller and ask!!

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    • Jack McHammocklashing

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      That is the way e-bay auctions work
      The seller can just place the item, on the auction for no cost, or can pay a small fee, to have a minimum price accepted, or a larger fee for a buy it now price

      The auction starts at zero, and bids go up at set amounts (usually a pound)
      Now instead of watching and bidding all day/week, you bid the greatest amount you are willing to go to

      Others bidding may have a set amount a lot lower than yours, so it automatically, bids a pound for them, then up it with your pound and so on until the lower bidder has met his max bid, the auction then adds one more pound of your bid Thus you win the item
      So your max is 20, some others are 10 and 15, the system auto bids until the 10 person is beat then commences on the 15, once that is beat then it bids 16 of yours, Not other bidders you take the item for 16 if the auction has ended

      It is the sellers fault for not setting a minimum figure, as it would have cost money to put the item in auction

      Jack McH
       
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      Knee-jerk thinking (I refrain from the E-bay circus) :
      Could it have anything to do with the sellers fees to Ebay? :dunno:

      The higher the price bid, the higher the fees to Ebay. So, as long as you have equalled the reserve price, even if it is over and above, the seller won't want to encounter higher fees than is absolutely necessary. Plus, seller gets a good rating for an exceptionally good 'service'. (Oh wow! I didn't have to pay the full bid and I still get the goodies: what a swell chappie he is: top ratings!).

      I may be wrong: just a knee jerk theory :redface:
       
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        ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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        Thanks Jack, but I'm still not clear as to why I paid considerably less than my one and only bid:scratch::wallbanging::dunno:???
         
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        Did it have a "buy it now" price?
         
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        Economics: pure and simple.
        Although I may have that wrong merely because I'm still a tad squiffy :heehee: :oops:
         
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          ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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          No, Pete, it didn't:dunno:, if it had have done I would have bought it then and there.!!:snork:



          I don't think that the economics are that pure......if I bid the highest offer why didn't I pay that sum??:scratch::snork:
           
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          Well, what is the alternative? You send the seller your higher offer? Erm, ok then. They won't thank you for it when they have to pay a higher percentage of the selling price to Ebay :dunno:

          They offered an item: they expected a certain price before they would complete the bid; they weighed up the expected price, the fees, postage/packaging that *they* would be happy to accept. Too much over an that would put them into the realms of higher trading fees with Ebay. YOU have the maximum offer of all offers, however, that would still equate (proportionately) to more than the seller desires in paying Ebay fees, so, as the highest bidder, you *won* the item. But, the seller doesn't wish to pay Ebay that level of fees, so, far easier to concede the "reserve" price thus saving potential Ebay fees, getting rid of an item at a price they (maybe?) didn't expect/want, plus earning a higher rating for being "good eggs".

          Either that or (CYNIC ALERT!): it's a stolen item, and they are delighted to get shot of it and any numpty will do just so long as they have met the minimum requirements (aka reserve price) and, for appearances sake, show themselves to be the highest bidder. When, actually, the highest bid could have been anything above the reserve price, just so long as they got rid of hot property. :dunno:
           
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          Just looked into this, if you bid higher than the reserve, your bid is set to the reserve price & only increases to your bid price if someone else bids higher.(If that makes sense)
           
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            ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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            Thanks for that, Jazzsi, .....................it would be easier just to sell the darned thing!!


            I'm a cynic, "M", so the things I buy have serial numbers quoted at the sale and I check them against a list [work does have it's perks] before I buy.:paladin::snork:
             
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            Remind me never to sell anything on eBay. If I was to set a reserve, it would be the lowest I'd be willing to let the item go for, but I'd hope for much more. So if someone was willing to pay much more but the system I'd paid to advertise on overrode and lowered their offer, I'd be most unhappy.
             
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              ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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              I agree, Clueless. I always set a budget for whatever item I'm bidding for and so just out of fairness I would pay the price I bid without a problem. That's why it feels "strange" to pay a lower price for an item. I love a bargain but don't mind paying a fair price for something either.:dunno::snork:
               
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                I tried to sell my potting bench on there recently and it went for only £2.20. Told the winning bidder that it had "broke" and was canceling the sale. I found this recently that people don't want to pay a very reasonable price for something and would rather pay next to nothing.
                 
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                Perhaps you're not meant to "get" it. Perhaps you're meant to enjoy the fact you got it for less than you were prepared to pay? :dunno: If lots of people are paying less than they were prepared to pay then they will bid on other items in the future and see it as a positive shopping experience! Very nice for Ebay too I would have thought?! How cynical of me! :snork:
                 
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