Help with a change of car.

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  1. Scrungee

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    There's more headroom in a Citroen 2CV/HY Van combination

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      Shiney.....although the 2CV is a car that goes forever, I can't see us going down this road (excuse the pun), with such a small engine I don't think it will make the climb up to the mountain road very easily/quickly and would probably be quicker for Mr. S to walk! :heehee:
       
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        I have no experience of the 2CV, but in general terms a small engine doesn't automatically mean the car is bad on the hills. Remember the old Skodas? The ones that all the jokes are about? They were pants. They were slow and noisy among other things. But, they were slow and noisy because the small, underpowered engine was coupled to a very low ratio gearbox. It meant they didn't really bat an eyelid and steep inclines. Its what they were built for.

        In another example, my dad once had one of the original Fiat 500s. In those days, unlike in the new version, the '500' came from the fact that it had a 500cc engine. Flat out that car could do about 50 or 60mph (with the wind behind it on a perfect road), but it climbed up Saltburn bank (1:4 at points, with 2 sharp bends preventing any possibility of a run-up) with my dad driving and enough of us as passengers so that we were packed in like sardines. Ok, so one of the drive shafts went near the top causing us to roll back down backwards some of the way before my dad managed to bring it back under control, but the engine was happy enough.
         
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        602cc to be exact. I had a Citroen 2CV Ami8 as my first car:

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        It was hand painted red, had the bulk of the key snapped off in the ignition so it started with a screwdriver, and could only manage just over 50mph downhill with a prevailing wind, with its 602cc hairdryer under the bonnet wheezing away for forgiveness.

        It had so many faults (not least the brakes and the rotten chassis) that I took it to the local scrapyard in the end, and refused to leave until I saw it cubed to make sure it would never be back on the road. Never again.
         
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          Ah, but yours was the poshed up version and not the farmers' version! They brought in the bigger engine in the 1960's, I think. The original engine was 425cc and a lot of those are still going well.

          They had increased the weight considerably when they made the Ami and it couldn't cope with the extra weight.
           
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            Other half has decided today that the track is going to wreck his car, so guess what we'll be doing at the weekend. :)
             
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              Don't dismiss some of the bigger ones out of hand Sheal - the perception that they are more costly to run is more often than not, wrong.

              Some years ago, I downsized from a Rover 216 to a Mazda 121 in the belief that it would be more frugal - how wrong I was! It drank like a Glaswegian alchy in happy hour.

              I traded it shortly after for a Sierra Sapphire 2.0 which saw my fuel bill nearly half overnight.

              Bigger definitely doesn't mean more expensive to run.
               
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                I'm not sure how your car tax works over there now FC, but here we pay on engine size and emissions, that combined with insurance on a bigger car it won't pay us to have anything more than a 1.5 engine. We sold our 2.0 Megane last year as we couldn't afford the running cost, tax, insurance and petrol along with a second car.
                 
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                I ain't got a clue either. All I know is that I bought a diesel Smart car the other day and the road tax costs exactly £0.00!!! I reckon that it's doing close to 80mpg too!
                 
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                  Getting in there first and smashing it up yourselves?

                   
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                    My son had a Smart car for about eighteen months Longk but sold it very quickly when he found out the price of the tyres!
                     
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                    They're not that bad - £275'ish a set. Just put four tyres on a Bentley at just under £1500!
                     
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                    Yes but when you consider the size of the tyres and the car for that matter I think it's a rip off in comparison to other cars. £1500! :thud:
                     
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                    Front brake discs and pads for the same car = £10000 (that's NOT a typo)!!!
                     
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                    Now you're scaring me! :yikes: Don't think I'll be buying a Bentley somehow. :doh:
                     
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