Wee Eck is even more unhinged than I thought

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  1. Fat Controller

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    The white paper that is the blueprint for Scotland's proposed independence has been revealed, and to me it clearly demonstrates that Wee Eck simply has not got a clue.

    Renationalise the Royal Mail? Just how much does he think it will cost to buy all the premises and vehicles (not least the trains and planes that are required), and to what level is he prepared to subsidise it on an annual basis? There is no way in hell that the price of a stamp will cover many of the deliveries in Scotland - the country is littered with farms, small villages and small-holdings that would simply cost a fortune to deliver to daily, and trying to absorb that cost in a significantly smaller operation simply won't work.

    End bedroom tax, increase pensions by 2.5% minimum annually, ALL children aged 3 + 4 to have 30 hours childcare a week - - and the real cracker, establish embassies across the world in places such as Beijing, Seoul and Washington; oh, and back it all up with a Scottish Defence Force of 20,000 people! Take your head out of your back passage man! The WHOLE of the UK currently only has TWO serviceable aircraft carriers, and they are only carrying helicopters now because we are bloody potless!

    And as for the vote itself - if you are a Scottish person living overseas, you can vote -- if you are a Scottish person living in England, Ireland or Wales, you can't vote; is that because the SNP know that those of us in this position are looking on and can see what a plainly stupid plan this really is?

    If it happens, I give it 20 years, tops, before poverty is even more rife than it is now within Scotland.
     
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    • Phil A

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      I've been listening to the debate with interest.

      The main reason Scotland joined the UK in the first place is because they bankrupted themselves in a failed colonisation attempt in America.

      The main vote swingers seem to be if they can still watch Doctor Who and Strictly for free afterwards, and if they get to keep the Pound??????

      Don't know of any other foreign countries that we supply free TV to and let them use our currency???
       
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      Dont they have their own banknotes?
      Oh Oh, dont they have the queens head on them?
       
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      They do, but they are not legal tender in England, up to the merchant's disgression as to accepting them.
       
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      You need to move FC?
       
    • Fat Controller

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      Nah, quite happy where I am; however, I am and always will be Scottish as well as British, and to see what this wee bam-pot is trying to sell to Scottish people as a good idea just makes my blood boil.

      I always knew he was a crackpot, but never for a minute did I think he would get into public office, let alone run a country. I wouldn't trust him to run a bath!
       
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        They are legal tender in England.

        Am I missing something here Zigs? Scotland became part of the UK when James VI took the throne of England as James I which is when the UK was created.
         
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        I must admit I haven't been taking it seriously. How can I? How can anyone?

        If Scotland votes for independence, does that mean they'll not be entitled to any money from what is currently central government, i.e. Westminster?

        Has Scotland actually got the ability to be self sufficient in terms of economy? I know some of the oil and gas comes into Scotland, and there's a fair bit of fishing, and I believe they still have some manufacturing up that way, but maybe its my ignorance but I cant seem to get my head to entertain the idea that there is enough to function independently in this day and age.

        But then the same could be said of the UK in relation to the EU, and I for one would like to see us get a bit of independence back from the EU.
         
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          They're not. They are just accepted.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darien_scheme
           
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            I'm all for it, provided he pays back all the money the Bank of England has put in to bail out the Scottish banks.
             
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              I am living in trepidation up here. All the numpties can see, is he is going to increase pensions by £10pw, reinstate the extra room payments,, Get rid of Trident nuclear subs, full open immigration, with work for all, no border with England, keep the Pound Stirling, reduce Corporation tax by 3%, increase Job Seekers Allowance, join the EU :-) Jam Tomorrow
              He has dropped the voting age to 16 for this, and is bombarding schools with info

              So the UK, sorry England limits immigration to 15k a year, but half a million can come to Edinburgh, and get the borderless train down to Berwick
              They have just had the dispute at Grangemouth refinery settled, after the threat of losing 800 workers (Grangemouth plant is ancient, they can move into a three year-old modern plant in Redcar for half the cost
              No Naval base for Nuclear, that is ten thousand jobs gone, we already have thousands unemployed, so where is the work to come from, and the tax to pay for all the Jam Tomorrow ?

              He (Salmond) is a barm pot, unfortunately they all just nod at the wonders they are about to receive

              All he really wants is to have his name down in History books a bit like Idi Amin

              Jack McH
               
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                I can tell you with some degree of certainty that there are no three year old modern plants here. At least not of the petrochemical/refinery sorts.

                The newest thing on Wilton is the Biofuel plant run by Ensus, and that's not big enough to support 800 more staff, its more than 3 year old, and it has shut down a number of times since it first opened due to a string of problems.
                 
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                  Well, unfortunately the Scottish people have!!:dunno::doh::snork:

                  Me, I didn't like the man when he first showed his face on TV and that was before he opened his mouth. I don't think the Scots, the Welsh, and the English should split and be independent for many reasons, geographically, financially, politically but also because we all live on the same green beautiful island surrounded by the same sea, friends and enemies. Which, to my mind, suggests that there is no Scotland, Wales or England just a group of people living in the same "House" Yes, we all insist on having our historical nationalistic differences which have been forged by blood, power lust, different political beliefs, accents, grievances etc but in times of need we have stood together as one. That's why I believe, none politically, that separation by Independence of three small groups only increases their vulnerability to recessions, lack of political power, inability to defend themselves and a future that can only be seen as limited at best.
                   
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                  • Jack McHammocklashing

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                    I may have the wrong town ?
                    Up here the TV were saying there is a more modern plant down the North East England that had closed, I just guessed it was Redcar or West Harlepool, Cleveland etc

                    Jack McH
                     
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                      They 'Aim to; Propose to; Intend to'. Vote 'yes' and it will be the promised land and we'll even have our own olympic team - and no more "England (Oor wee Andy) has won Wimbledon.."
                      Wee Eck is quite a nice chappie when you meet him (we have) and devolution as far as it's gone has in my opinion and experience, and I speak as a Sassenach living here, has been good for this part of the UK. Before devolution Scotland felt pretty a much marginalised part of the UK. Way north of the Watford gap and in the land beyond Hadrian's fence and with a population less than greater London, so hardly worth bothering about as far as UK Gov.com was concerned. Things have changed for the better.
                      BUT ..If it ain't completely broke you mend it - you don't chuck it away and hope to find a replacement you can afford.
                      Wee Eck as King of Scotland? Free sweeties for the bairns? :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                       
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