Planting scheme advice please

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  1. Fat Controller

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    I am trying to plan ahead a wee bit, to try and avoid my usual scattergun approach when it comes to planting this year.

    I've got 200 bulbs coming (in fact I got a red card from the Post Office today, so I suspect that they are sitting in the sorting office waiting for me), and these are comprised of begonias, freesias, liatris, lilies, gladioli and dahlias.

    Exact quantities of each are unknown at this stage, but I am trying to get my head round the best way to plant these, as I am guessing they will need to be put in fairly shortly?

    Now, I am thinking in order, back to front:

    gladioli, liatris, lillies, dahlias, freesias and begonias - I have got further plugs of XXXL Dahlias for the back, as well as tree lillies that are already in the ground from last year, which also at the back.

    Oh, and I've got another 75 dahilas coming for good measure, along with seeds for goodness knows how many more!

    (FC wants an absolute blaze of colour this year, and hopefully some lay-overs into years ahead!)
     
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      It all very much depends on the species of Gladioli, Lily and Dahlia.
      Personally, I would plant them in grouped clumps.
       
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      Generally Bulb folk ship at a time when bulbs are ready to be planted, but its early for gladioli, dahlias, freesias and begonias. The Liatris & Lillies should be fine. Keep the other guys cool (not in the fridge) until planting time)
       
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        I might give that a shot, thanks Kristen :)
         
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        Wow thats a list... Where did u buy them from?
        I dont know much about all these plants and their habits but can suggest to plan around a color scheme ... :)
        Personally, I would put liatris right at the back because of its foliage type..

        What might also help is getting them all on Excel sheet with ultimate height, flowering time and flower color. Then sort them in small groups (color scheme, height gradient) to be planted together so that you have color all year round with plenty of interest throughout the garden. Just few thoughts really.
        Looking forward to what others suggest..

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        I think Capability Brown had an early version of Excel too - he just didn't tell anyone about it!!
         
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          The bulbs and the plug plants are coming from Thomson & Morgan - 200 bulbs for £35, so works out at 17p a bulb which isn't bad. Trouble is, I don't think that they will come marked with variety/colour (probably why they are cheap) - I might be surprised when they arrive though.

          I like the idea of whacking them into a spreadsheet though - I was already pondering on doing a spreadsheet to keep track of seeds sown, germinated and wholly successful so I can get a handle on what works well and what doesn't........ but I am a bit sad like that :redface:
           
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          Learn from my experience - you start off full of enthusiasm, keep it up a while, and then it was all a waste of effort as you fall by the wayside and end up with another useless file on your hard drive!!!

          @minki - are Liatris tall enough to go behind Lilies? I guess that it depends on the species too..............
           
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            I can't function with out my Excel planting plan ! It has all my dates and info for planting. I also have my ToDo list on Excel. I'd be lost without it :dbgrtmb:
             
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              Same here... I need that degree of planning or I panic.. Slight OCD? @longk liatris gayfeather usually goes 3-4 ft but is known to go as tall as 6ft in 2 years.. But you are right may not be taller than tree lilies (approx 8ft, or so I have heard).


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                I still have no idea what tree Lilies are. Are they a separate genus, or just tall Lilies?
                 
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                Nah, just using a modern, and more efficient, tool than the old fashioned notebook & pencil. Gardeners have kept records since time immemorial ... I find it very helpful to have a note of what I did last year (and before), and when ... and then my notes alongside that say "Plant more next year" or "Never again!"

                I would translate that as gaining experience such that you don't need the records anymore, as by then you know what to do, or can rely on the skilled instincts you have developed.

                I got to the point where I was doing it "from memory" and then reading up about something later realised that I had forgotten to do "X". I now have a spreadsheet, in chronological order, for anything that needs specific attention at a given point in time. When is the start date for considering spraying roses against black spot? or slug pellets - I can remember that one :) "Valentines day" - plenty more jobs that I can't reliably remember. Bringing the garden hose in and shutting off the otuside stopcocks before winter weather arrives. Ordering Spuds in December before my favourite supplier runs out (too late, ordered last weekend and already Pink Fir Apple had run out, so I have had to source them from an untried supplier. I could go on you know :heehee:

                Here's what my Vegetable Husbandry Calendar looks like
                VegHusbandryCalendar.gif

                Very simple as you can see. The date is either 01st or 15th of the month (important to get all of them on the same year, otherwise a date sort is a mess!), Crop, Action type, and then some text. I can filter by a specific plant type (e.g. Garlic) or by a particular Action (e.g. Harvest - if I want to check either what I should be harvesting and when or if to check that my notes do actually include actions for all the crops that I am currently growing :)

                I doubt you need a reminder to Weed ... that's a "see what it looks like" thing of course. I typed this in, originally, from actions in a book I had to hand, but I do find it handy when Mrs K (keen & helpful gardener, but not knowledgeably per se) wants to know what she can do in the garden ... its all on The Schedule :)
                 
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                  Basically Oriental Trumpet Lilies "re-badged"
                   
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