Weird diet side effects

There's loads of very useful info in this thread now, but as yet, nobody seems to have put forward a theory as to why all the trumpeting.

 

@Madahhlia http://zenbellycatering.com/2012/09/26/some-paleo-fun/

Actually I just eat very naturally and low carb as our paleo ancestors would have. I don't worry about eating fat, in fact I purposely eat extra fats, and no longer get fat. I am healthier and fitter than I have ever been.
OMG. I've gone all preachy now.

 

Just your body adapting. It will settle soon I expect.

 

Without the aid of a mirror, its a while since I've been able to get visual confirmation of this fact.

 

The paleo fun was very funny, I'm just not entirely sure why. And some fell on stony ground.

 

http://thepaleodiet.com/what-to-eat-on-the-paleo-diet/

Just had a ramble round this site and was feeling quite pro-paleo - I'm a bit evangelical about sugar and salt as well. Until I realised what I wouldn't be allowed to eat.

NO chips
NO cheese
NO bread
so definitely NO cheesy chips. Or chip butties.

Not that I eat these foods every day or even every week. But I do want to eat them sometimes.

Out of interest, is there no evidence that ancient Peruvians ate starchy tubers? Possibly with some vile soured goat's milk concoction on them?

What about paleo veggies? Or did they just grow thin and die?

 

I had a few thoughts on the 'paleo' thing too. I am not rubbishing the idea, but in the way my mind works, I like to understand something before I just accept it

So here's my thoughts:
* Didn't the ancient folk typically die very young? I have it in my head that back then, if you made it to your late twenties you were considered to be an elder.
* There is a lot of evidence that although at one point in history we were leaning more towards being carnivorous than herbivorous, its my understanding that for the most part we were more veggy than carnivore, with the simple reason being that fruits and nuts can't run as fast as wild boars. Fruit is mostly carbs.
* Not being an archaeologist (or palaeontologist), I don't know one period of prehistory from the next, but don't we have bread and cereal now because our ancient ancestors learned to farm wheat instead of just seeking it out in the wild? Would that not imply that we've been largely carb fuelled for a very long time?

 

Sometimes a Man's got to do what a Man's got to do

The length of our bowels would indicate we've been more used to eating veg than a lot of meat.
We couldn't digest milk past infancy until there was some genetic mutation, which I think occured around the same time we were becoming farmers.

 

Veg is the basis of the paleo way of life.
You know, no paleo police are going bash down your door if you eat a chip. I do eat cheese but not chips as they are too high carb for my diabetes.

 

There are Paleo Police?

 

This has been a controversial subject for years now so I'm not going to champion any particular named diet. However, the recent discussion in the news about sugar being the "real evil" not fat, is, in my opinion, completely true. I also believe you don't need sugar/carbs as an energy source as you can function normally and in a lot cases, much better using fat as your energy supply.
This can be sourced from nuts, seeds oil, as well as meat and fish. When I tried this I found my blood sugar levels were far more stable than when I was eating processed carbs. Fruit and veg are a valuable source of vitamins and fibre so I would never discount them from my diet.

One final comment on the Ketogenic diet, the NHS are now advising this for children with unstable Epilepsy as studies have shown a dramatic reduction in the number of fits in the study group following this plan.

 

Dunno if you eat a similar diet each day? If so you might like to try putting the data, accurately and OCD-style, into

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/

its a site for calorie counting and logging exercise. If you want to get a gadget you could get a step counter (there are APPs for iPhones which probably do a good enough job, without any expenditure, unless you want something reasonably accurate).

I weighted and measured my portions for a couple of days and used My Fitness Pal's vast database of foods to accurately calculate calories from my "average food intake". (people in their forums say that they input their meals for calorie counting and log their exercise, and the weight-loss predictions are spot-on compared to actual, so I think their database is accurate).

Definitely. Although, as it happens, I have done neither and am losing 1 lb a week ...

I started the year wanting to lose 1.5 stones, and I started calorie counting - mainly to get a baseline, but I was also intending to get a step counter and take some exercise. Someone (on another gardening forum) suggested fasting in the mornings (body then has to burn some fat, or somesuch). So now I stop eating at around 9pm (not difficult as we eat fairly early in the evening) and then in the morning only have black coffee / water until lunch time. I thought I would be hungry, or not sharp enough to work, but I actually found, surprisingly, that neither is the case.

Morning fasting cut out all the morning snacks ... which surprisingly I didn't miss.

I started off having breakfast (Porridge or Cereal) at 1pm ... and then replaced that with my normal lunch (bread, cheese, left overs from a joint or salami). I was getting hungry by 4pm-ish, probably just old habits of getting up to break my desk-bound routine, making a cuppa and having a biscuit ...) so I decide to have "breakfast" at 4pm - Porridge or Cereal - and since doing that I'm not finding that I snack much in the afternoon, and some days not at all.

Losing about 1 lb a week as a result, and basically not eating anything different for Breakfast, Lunch and Supper - just not eating them in the same order! nor at the original times

Ah ... I thought you said you had the urge to play the trumpet. If you are trumpeting that's probably the Jerusalem Artichokes!

 

Retired (as in "of that age") doctors that I know well say that in the 60's (earlier maybe?) the decision was taken to educate people about heart disease and the choice was made between Fat and Sugar and they say, with the benefit of hindsight, the wrong one was picked.

Margarine? That was the solution, what's happened to that now? And so on ...

Dunno if related in any way, but there is some research from Newcastle University (I think recently, apologies if it is old news) that newly diagnosed Type 2 Diabetics can be cured by using a very low calorie "starvation" diet, for a short period. I think because the body burns up fat in the Liver, which then sorts out the insulin production, or something like that.

(I've got the link somewhere, if anyone wants it pls ask)