Is it ok for the state to detain your kids at the weekend for nowt?

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  1. clueless1

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    Maybe. And maybe instead of being the mellow, patient chap I think I am, I might have been full of resentment and distrust. Or maybe I'd be quick to use violence against those that I felt had stepped out of line, instead of considering the possibility that any tense situation could also be partly my fault.

    I see no problem with reasonable discipline where it is appropriate, but where is it appropriate? Is it appropriate, as in my case, to punish and attempt to belittle a child because they don't have a TV at home? I'd suggest that that is just plain bullying, and the only way to handle a bully is to meet them head on.
     
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      I agree as in my post where I was punished for something I had no control over, but in 1954 there is no way I would put my case to a TEACHER

      Teachers were God, the same as your Doctor, or if I was in that class a Lawyer
      Therefore I agree in corporal punishment as long as it is genuine, as in it is YOUR fault you were late, or disruptive, Bolshoi I know my rights type, make a fool of your teacher


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      I think Dave W's post describes the erosion of the general acceptance of ‘authority’ mentioned. Discipline is a foreign concept to many children now (for a raft of reasons I'm sure), the teachers have had all the tools removed from their kit and are expected to maintain discipline from unruly pupils.

      If I was a teacher would I like to see the re-introduction of the cane? A large part of me says yes please, the rest of me lives in fear for the children that would be on the receiving end of some sadistic and ill-equipped teacher and the all but certainly poorly planned and implemented guidance on use. I would rather the children run riot. I would further like for the parents to back teachers more than they do currently (a sweeping statement I know). I often wonder if the parents themselves are equipped to provide discipline.

      I'd also like to thank Head Teacher Dave W for highlighting a new word that I took upon myself (as my education taught the value of research and learning for it's own merits) to look up - "concomitant" - naturally accompanying or associated.
       
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      Also used as meaning - dependent upon or in conjunction with.

      It's a rather amorphous word as it encompasses many correlations between words and meanings. :heehee:
       
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      you sound just like a Civil Serpant Serpent Mr Shiney,
       
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      I always found that, when dealing with the Civil Service, it was best to outdo them in the verbosity stakes. :heehee:

      There were some fun times when I had used obscure or archaic words and they had to admit that they didn't understand what I was saying - or better still, pretend they did and make a fool of themselves.

      I never did it to anyone who hadn't already started using gobbledegook in their missives.

      I, once, accused a government minister (just his department) of deliberately using amphigory to try and confuse me. His department sent my response up the line and I got a humorous letter back from the Minister saying that their department were now attempting to revise their communications into more understandable English. :blue thumb:
       
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