Wee Eck is even more unhinged than I thought

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  1. Loofah

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    I think hope that most adult Scots realise he hasn't an actual plan to deliver all his promises (he can't) which is presumably why he's trying the con of lowering voting age to something more impressionable. Sneaky wee illegitimate child!
    If Scotland really are feeling so hard done by Westminster etc then they need to up their ability in negotiating for what they want. Separating a union and then bankrupting the whole country doesn't seem like a sane option to me.
     
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      Oh dear, it seems our government has upset the Scottish ministers, and they have made threats in return.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26147783

      It seems that part of Scotland's plan was based on an assumption that they'd not really be independent at all, they'd still be sharing our currency, which means they'd be sharing our interest rates and credit rating etc.

      The government has told them no, you're not having our currency. In retaliation the Scottish ministers have threatened to just not pay back their share of UK debt, to which our government has replied, fine, if you want to default, good luck getting credit in future, expect massive credit card and mortgage interest rates for your people.

      Its all quite fascinating to me.
       
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        I tell you that wee tube has not got a clue - he will bankrupt Scotland inside a decade, and then have the cheek to blame it on the rest of the UK.

        Nicola Sturgeon is little more than a jumped up wee nyaff either. I would not pee on either of them if they were on fire, even if I was bursting unless my bladder was full of petrol.
         
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          Salmond bangs his drum and whines when an argument doesn't go his way, balling his eyes out about how unjust it is. Then distraction tactics saying it's the UK that are panicked and isn't their behaviour awful.
          OMG he's a child, using children to pass the vote through who know little or nothing about how life and politics function and control life, and barring Scots in England from voting.
          I have my doubts that the Westminster bunch campaign is effective so this nut job might actually get his way. It's bonkers no one is stopping him
           
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            From the article:

            How on earth can they possibly know what is the 'majority public opinion in England'? They've never asked me. As far as I can gather they've never asked my friends, colleagues or family. In fact as far as I'm aware they've not asked anyone.

            My opinion is that if they get independence, it should be independence and it should work both ways. At this point, our government should be working out which national assets are currently north of the border and who should have them, with a view to fetching things back where possible or putting a price on it where not. The Scottish people should be thinking about their work and business opportunities, deciding whether or not they want to apply to be in the EU and working out if they can still do business, unrestricted, with Britain. Hey, even daft things like if they are not in the EU or the UK, will we need a passport to go there for our hols?:)

            How will fishing rights be sorted out? Who gets what's left of the north sea oil and gas? Loads of things that don't seem to have been considered, or if they have, there's not been much in the way of clarification in the mainstream media, yet I'd have thought this stuff would be of absolutely paramount importance for people who are about to make a decision that will not only affect their own future, but the future of their kids, and their kids' kids.
             
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              What about Scottish people, living in England or Wales that still have family in Scotland (and the possibility of inheriting property or part thereof a number of years down the line)?

              Why are people like me not even allowed to vote? Its discrimination as far as I am concerned, not least because Scots who are abroad WILL be allowed to vote!
               
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                Because Scots living in England would be shooting themselves in the foot by voting in favour of independence.

                I sincerely hope those eligible to vote do the right thing. Its not just Scotland that loses if they vote Yes, Britain as a whole loses. In the two industries that I know anything at all about, petrochemicals and IT, there is a lot of trade between England and Scotland. Then there's our military capability. I believe a lot of what's left of our fighting capability is based north of the border. I understand that's where all the nukes are, and I'm told that our subs regularly turn up in the lochs.
                 
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                The nuke boats run from Faslane because it is the only UK seaport with access to instant deep water ie:- Stealth, the boat sails and dives then goes many ways, Irish sea, Atlantic South bound, North bound, or West bound,, East coast they would have to sail surfaced in the North sea and the channel, the same for West country, so Faslane it is

                I have a wee chuckle when Glaswegians come on radio talk shows and complain about the Nukes, how it makes them a target, Well mate if we moved them to Carlisle, you would still go bang along with us

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                  I must find out about the eligibilty of Scots who live abroad being allowed to vote and see if it applies to me and how it works.

                  The results of the last poll of 16-17 year olds that I read about had most intending to vote No, so hopefully that's accurate. Our teenagers are maybe more clued up than we give them credit for.

                  I don't think that the majority of people in Scotland want independence, the only thing that would carry the Yes vote would be the apathy of those that don't want it. Unfortunately, that's what happens in most elections. (Me being a prime example having not yet bothered to even find out if I can vote!) It's just the Nats and the Yes campaign are making the most noise and getting the airtime and news space. Which will hopefully be their downfall as they make more and more public fools of themselves.
                   
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                    Hi FC. I am not getting too excited about Ecky Thump , Ecky Secundus, The Man Who Would Be King, his rantings and ravings, empty vessels make the most noise.
                    He will be like the Queens racehorse (Devon Loch) in the 1956 Grand National, fall on the Flat after jumping all the fences . Typical Politician Promise All , Produce " F***K ALL.:doh::doh::doh:.
                     
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                      :lunapic 130165696578242 5: I take it that you don't like the man, Music!!............join the Club:heehee:
                       
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                        Oh boy, we are really quite worried that Eck and his cronies, none of which we have ever voted for, might just might get a yes vote. I was intending to help my daughter buy her own home up here BUT until we know the outcome of the vote we will not be putting anymore of our hard earned cash into property in Scotland. I love living here, I was born in England and my husband in Southern Ireland neither of us wish to move away from Scotland, however if there is a yes vote we will move, probably to Northumberland so as to still be quite close to our family and friends who choose to stay....not sure that will be many of them!!!!!
                        Unfortunately there is quite a significant number of Scots who think voting for Independence is a fabulous idea, many supposed yes voters are not gainfully employed and therefore not tax payers (this evidence came from a poll taken recently I believe) and are rubbing their hands at the "bribes" which wee Eck keeps offering to them and others in the form of free child care no spare bedroom tax, renationalisation of the mail etc etc. As it stands today we Scots are already getting the equivalent of 90% of the revenue of North Sea oil through the Barnett formula. I don't need 3 guesses who will have to pay for all these "wonderful" schemes Eck has in his pipedream/line. The SNP are very good at insults ( eg calling Cameron a fearty (scared)) not nearly so hot on actual facts and figures. My daughter's employer (quite a large Scottish based haulier) has already said that he might well wind up the business and retire if there is a yes vote. That's well over 200 employees and god knows how many ancillary workers out of job and this is just 1 I have personal knowledge of. I am proud to be Scottish AND British and have absolutely no desire to be separated from the rest of Britain. I'm just praying that there are enough of us to get a NO vote.
                         
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                          Aye free sweeties for everyone according to the wee man! The YES potential does seem to be growing according to what I heard on the news this morning. I just hope that there's sufficient voters who can see beyond the smoke and mirrors on the stage.
                          If it does come to YES, and I still think it unlikely, we'll just put our estate on the market - it's a Honda, so even with a move to the bawbee currency it should hold its value and we'll move all our assets offshore to Cumbrae. No, maybe Cayman islands would be better :biggrin:
                           
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                            Don't worry Dave, I know a banker in the Caymans that I can put you in touch with :blue thumb: ;)
                             
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                              Unfortunately no-one down here seems to be taking it very seriously and countering any of the smoke and mirrors. On the occasions we do, then Salmond and Sturgeon just cry foul and say how Westminster is being unreasonable - and people bloody listen to them!! Do they actually trust their government?!
                               
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