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    Last time I got involved in something like that, if it was a Garden Centre sales type 'nursery' then no, but if a dedicated commercial horticultural enterprise producing plants, yes. But that was many years ago and planning rules are changing all the time these days and I was looking at associated permitted development rights for construction of buildings for those purposes which is separate issue to authorised use.
     
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      That is the long term plan.
       
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        Wish you well with it mate :blue thumb: - its been a dream of mine and my mums that if we could, we would open a big nursery; I have no chance, as I have neither the land nor the money.
         
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          Some friends of ours bought an old farmhouse and rebuilt it. Some years after that they bought an unused part of the next door farmer's field alongside them (their side of a ditch) to use as a garden. That part of the field hadn't been used for farming in the last three generations.

          Our friends, also, put a tennis court on the land. Twenty two years later the local authority told them that they had to remove the tennis court because it was agricultural land. They had seen it when they had been doing planning checks by satellite!

          Our friends pointed out that the land had not been used for agricultural purposes for at least three generations and, prior to that, it had been part of the original garden of their farmhouse. So it was likely that it had never been agricultural land.

          The council weren't interested in any arguments and insisted that it be removed. Our friends then pointed out that it had been used by them as a garden with the tennis court for well over twenty years and they understood that it meant that it could remain. Two more years of arguing and the council gave in.

          So it shows that you need to follow the rules or it can be a problem.

          I was chatting to a planning officer last year and he said that a lot of planning departments use satellite technology to check up on properties - especially to check the size of newly built properties.
           
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            I've no idea on these things but would it be suitable for grazing? there could well be a farmer out there that would rent a portion off.....
             
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              If I mend the perimeter fence, it would be ideal for grazing. In fact one of my ideas for putting it to use until I can get time to fully utilise it, is to offer up a portion to the local donkey sanctuary. I drive past there ever day on the way to work, and its clear they could use some more space. There was a cunning attempt at a break out last year. The donkeys chewed up part of the fence until it was almost through:)
               
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                Brilliant Clue...look into it and if it suits go for it:dbgrtmb:...
                 
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                  This is supposed to be regularly happening within National Parks, Green Belt, AONB, etc., to identify unauthorised dwellings (including converted vehicles, caravans, benders, tipis, earth shelters, Hobbit Homes, etc.).
                   
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                  Councils in the cities are also using it to check whether illegal building work has been done in back gardens.
                   
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                  I always get an arial picture of our house and garden just in case some one complains about something had has been there for years, just as proof
                   
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                    Doubt it. Horticulture not same thing as Agriculture (and probably with fair reason - Tractor / Combine arriving on field a few times a year not same as 20x staff and cars for pricking out, or somesuch!!). Worth enquiring about a "change of use" - I doubt it would cost you anything / much to get an opinion on "Definitely not" or "Probably", and based on that then make an application if you like.

                    I see renting it out as being a minefield as Spruce so eloquently described. I wonder if an answer might be to "employ" someone to tend it for you, rather than "rent" it out? If it was an "allotment" maybe they could grow veg, under your "command", and then keep a share of that as their "income", In practical terms you would just get their spare produce.
                     
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                      change of use for land £195
                      change of use for house £395
                      in our area
                       
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