The Budget

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  1. Scrungee

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    Not interested in the stock market anymore as we cashed in our (stocks & shares based)endowment policy the week before 9/11.
     
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      I always remember what my dad would say when I was a naive youth, not yet wise to the ways of the world.

      The gist of it was "Every year when budget time comes round, we hear the politicians promising that we will all be better off, that they will reward hard work, that prosperity is just around the corner and so on...
      ..... and every year I still have to get up and go to work the next morning."
       
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        Perhaps that may be, yet again, after both of us completely opting out of 'economic activity' and despite not claiming any benefits whatsoever, our previous hard work will not be rewarded, but once again we're still worse off after this budget.

        Or will 'rewards' be limited to all those immigrants earning less than £38,000 p.a. who are required to drive our new economy, but who actually make nett gains on tax, after what they get back in tax credits, child benefits, etc., and also require additional housing, schooling, etc. Again I think not, Oh hang on a minute all the houses they will require will cause a housing boom/boost to the economy ..... there goes our allotments.
         
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          There'd be a lot less of them if there were less jobs here for them, and there'd be less jobs here for them if so many of Britain's youths were workshy job dodgers.
           
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          Do you really mean what you've just said, or did you actually mean to say the opposite?

          Like there'd be less jobs here for them (immigrants) if so many of Britain's youths were not workshy job dodgers?
           
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            Well spotted. You're absolutely right. The 'not' should be there.
             
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              Its how they are brought up now days from an early age.
              Never told they are rubbish and never allowed to feel they have failed.

              So they never try to do better.
              Recipe for mindless morons, its not their fault, its the nanny state.

              There are some that are good, but that mostly comes from the parents teachings and not the system.
               
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                There's a balance to be struck though. If you only ever tell someone they are no good, then they will believe it, and believe that there is no point trying to be better because no matter what they do, they are told they are no good.

                At the other end of the scale, permanent praise, even when its not really justified, just leads to arrogance.

                Somewhere in between is about right I think, and its what I aim for with my kids. Massively exaggerated praise for any achievement, so that effort is rewarded, but no praise at all, and even a bit of verbal chastisement, where laziness or blatant cheek is shown.
                 
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                  Teacher: Good; We know he can do better; Awful and unnecessary result.

                  In the same, and corresponding, order -
                  Mum and Dad: Well done, and hugs; pull your finger out; Whack!

                  There were a number of shades in between. :smile: Which included a lot of help and encouragement. :dbgrtmb:
                   
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                  Eeeeeh, weren't like the old days were it??? In the old days a lot of the City Secondary schools didn't bother about with GCEs with pupils leaving with nothing to say what standard of education they had had. I joined the rif raf and it was they who pushed me into GCEs "O" and "A", HNCs to become a Air Radar Fitter not the education system.
                  Both era's, present and past, have their faults and to be honest I don't think there's much difference. We had Louts, Shirkers, Villains, and Morons in our days but perhaps time and ageing blurs our memories and attitudes.
                  I used to, as a kid, listen to my Mum and Dad and their friends who were struggling to bring up their families in the right way saying just the same things about the Old Days and the attitude of the kids in their present day.:dunno: There's good kids and bad kids now and there was then but the World was less materialistic then, social values were a lot clearer, and Life was a lot "slower" so maybe we did have the better chance to appreciate what was around us, but that's not the present day youth fault. Most youth today, male and female, want a decent Life where they can bring up a family and/or make "something" of themselves but that's getting harder and harder due to low paid jobs [same as in our day] and astronomical prices for Houses. I bought my new build house for "£50 down and come back in a fortnight, Mister" followed by a £1500 deposit frantically scraped together.......you couldn't do that now!! The cost of living is affecting us "more mature" folk, but it's affecting our Youth of Today even more and holding them back/down even more than it did in our day.:coffee:
                   
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                    A few quotes about youth and youths. Things don't change all that much!

                    'In case you're worried about what's going to become of the younger generation, it's going to grow up and start worrying about the younger generation'

                    'Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old.'

                    'Youth is a wonderful thing. What a crime to waste it on children.'
                     
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                      lets wait and see what they come up with at next years budget that will surely be the budget that bribes people into voting in the tories
                       
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