Blanket Weed and Water Soldiers

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  1. luciusmaximus

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    I have had blanket weed in my raised pond since the winter and cannot get rid of it. I bought 2 different products to add to the water and neither has had any impact on it. I have been thinking about trying a product that contains barley straw extract ( think its made by Algofin ). Has anyone tried it or can offer any advice how to get rid of blanketweed please? I have recently put some watercress into the pond hoping this might help. Have also replaced the worst of my plants that were clogged up with weed. The pond is in shade for at least half the day and is around 18 inches - 2ft deep. Its filled with rainwater.
    I recently bought some Water Soldiers. They were healthy looking when they arrived but since going into the pond they look decidedly the worse of wear. The outer leaves are turning brown, decaying and breaking off.. Any thoughts on this please?
     
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    Hi luciusmaximus
    My next door neighbour had the same problem , we went down to the local Pond people and after checking out the horrifying prices for treatments we decided on a pad you put in the pond or hide it in the filter . The pad was like a big 8x8in pan scrubber infused with a chemical , you cut it down depending on the size of pond . It took about two weeks but it certainly cleared the blanket weed , Only problem is you need an air pump in the pond to replace the air that is removed , and please follow instructions carefully . The pad was about £11 compared to silly prices for fluids .
    Cannot remember name sorry but good luck .
    micky
     
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    Just guessing, but if the water soldiers were big, they might have been forced for sale, they should however sort themselves out.
    Bear in mind nothing happens fast in a pond, every change is gradual, unless you use chemicals, which I tend to avoid, they are for the spotless/sterile giant carp ponds.

    I've got a lot of blanket weed in mine this year, but hoping the balance will soon sort itself out regarding plant growth to shade the pond and extract nutrient, thus starving out the blanket weed.
     
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      When researching my duck weed I read about blanket weed. The RHS advice was barley straw extract.
       
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      I know it's stating the obvious, L, but the blanket weed is growing because it's feeding off the nutrients in the water. I wouldn't recommend the use of chemicals because [a] most of them don't work if they do the effect is temporary and it has a detrimental effect on the Life in the water. What you need to do is remove the nutrient in the water which will always be coming into the water from different sources. Is it possible you could supply a couple of pics of the pond and give the size and depth of it???:dunno::scratch::snork:
       
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      Same here blanket weed quite bad. I am not a believer in chemicals due to the small insect life that it may harm. As Pete and ARMANDII say it is about nutrients and sunlight. My water lilies and weeds are growing well so all being well it should be starved of sunlight. I intend to net this winter against leaves, remove as much as possible of the rotting vegetation that comes from my shallow area plants and lilies. The pond is busy with frogs, newts, snails and dragonfly larvae etc so the blanket weed doesn't seem to affect them and it is naturally occurring even though a nuisance.
       
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        It's a question often asked though. Here's part of a long post I did regarding my pond and how I keep it clear.


        3rd question can i use normal soil or compost to re plant the plants into kideny bean shaped planters and do i need to top them off with gravel.cheers in advance for info.
        This is one for argument among Pond lovers. I dug my pond in 1993 after doing a lot of research on wildlife ponds and the plants needed. I used plastic baskets for the marginal plants after ensuring that I made a shelf, while shaping the pond when digging it, about 10 inches down, and running around three quarters around the pond. I followed the late great Geoff Hamilton's advice when he was building his pond at Barnsdale in Rutland with regard to marginal plant baskets. He said you don't need to buy special compost but that ordinary garden soil will do. Those who advocate special compost do so normally on the grounds of there being less nutrients in it thereby not encouraging algae. I'll explain why that's not a good argument later. Geoff Hamilton lined the baskets with hessian and then filled them with ordinary garden soil. put the plants in and then covered the soil with small gravel. The gravel will stop the soil escaping from the basket, that would also be the method if "special" compost was used. I followed that method to the letter and it worked brilliantly and I still have nearly all of the original plants, in their original baskets, in the pond today.!!:yes: I've also found that I've never had to mess about maintaining the baskets as they have looked after themselves.

        Some advocates of "special" compost saying that you shouldn't use ordinary garden soil because it contains nutrients which will encourage algae to grow in the water. However, I have planted as I said because whatever nutrients there are in garden soil is in fact taken up by the Marginal plants, Oxygenator plants, Floater plants, and Deep Water plants and they maintain the balance needed to ensure that algae and the like are not given the opportunity to grow because all the while the plants are taking nutrients out of the pond water. One of the key components of keeping the pond in balance is ensuring that you plant enough Marginals, and other types to ensure that there is a continuing natural system that takes nutrients out of the water. Do that and your pond water will remain clear and algae free. How do I know that, because I can say, in all honesty, that since I built the pond and put in the Marginals I have never had one problem with the pond.:snork:
         
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          Thank you for the replies, some interesting and helpful comments :smile: I will take a picture of the pond and post it. I have a small lily in there but it doesn't seem to be growing or growing so slowly as not to be noticeable.
           
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            Have you seen the price of the stuff:wow:

            So I went to the pet shop and bought a small bale of barley straw, cost me £2.50.
            Now I dont know how they make the extract, but up till this year you could buy bundles of barley straw in netting for putting in your pond, not seen any this year, only the expensive "extract".
            I've filled a bucket with the straw and added enough water to cover it a few days ago, tonight I drained of a rich brown liquid and added it to my pond.

            I will now sit back and watch what happens:)
             
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              On the RHS site it said to put it in a hessian(?) bag. There was even the formula for how much for your pond.
               
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              They used to sell barley straw in a net bag for putting in your pond, it was not cheap, but the last container of Barley straw Extract I saw, in liquid form, was£34 and no smaller containers were available.
               
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              Jeepers!
              You gotta love your pond to spend that! The way that I see it mine is ok as it's still teeming with tadpoles and the water lily that I added on the tenth of May appears to have secured itself to the bottom and is fair romping away.
               
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                This has always worked for me. I assume you have a filter?
                 
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