Passiflora - help!

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  1. Fat Controller

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    I have a passion flower that never actually flowered last year, but did manage to get a good bit of growth on it; according to the description, it was supposed to be an evergreen (yeah, right!) however it lost all its foliage over winter.

    Now, it has come back into life, but only at the very top of the existing stems - - in short, I have woody stems that go up around 5ft or so, with green growth at the top.

    Was I supposed to hack this back to near ground level?

    Is there anything that can be done, or is it destined to always be perched on these 5ft bare stems?
     
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    Well, as its started growing now I'd leave it for this year, perhaps try to get the top growths to go downwards a bit.
    Downward or horizontal growth always flowers better than upright growth.

    Next year, depending on the winter we get, you could cut it back a bit in March, but not too hard, as it retards flowering.
     
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      The passionflower is very easily trained on trellises/rigging/netting.
      You can just aim it all down, or gently persuade it to fill the entire support.
      At my old house, we had a lovely one that after a few years had hundreds of flowers on it every year, with minimal care after the first couple of years.
      Beware though, snails will rest in thier hundreds behind these plant if you have them against a wall.
      Fan it out on your supports when you get new shooties. If your main stems are very woody and long, you can dig it up and plunge it down further(very long and retards growth).
      If you wanna eat the fruits, only when fully ripe please, the plant is pretty sore tummyish.
       
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        Do you know which variety it is?

        My experience of the most common one (I forget the variety) is that it will pop up in unexpected places when you least expect it to. Underground runners I think?
         
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        Spot on!
         
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        Not off the top of my head, sorry I can't. Its in a pot though so the runners won't be a problem. I was wondering if I would be better moving it and putting a wee nick in some of the green top growth and then dusting with rooting powder and then sinking into another pot of compost - almost a cross between a cutting and a runner?
         
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          Its called layering:biggrin:
           
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          Aye, that :biggrin:
           
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            They defoliate in winter if they get too cold (compared to what they like ... rather than "frozen solid" :) )

            I'm surprised it isn't shooting from the base - probably would if you cut it back - but I would go the propagation route, as a back-up if nothing else, and then once that is rooted maybe cut back next Spring (I'd leave it for the winter in case the cold kills the end of the stems - if they are cut short they won't have as much resilience )

            I wonder if the pot is too small, or if it would prefer to be planted out?

            If "all leaf" perhaps it needs a higher Potash feed to encourage flowering?
             
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              It is in a pot, and that is almost certainly part of the problem. I am tempted to plant it out against the back fence (I have some new trellis in the shed just waiting for a job) and at the same time stick the top end where there is growth into a pot (not much green anyway) and see what happens - absolute worst case, I'll lose it; best case, I might end up with two of them :)
               
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              Once the roots spread out itl flower. Maybe even this year. Potash as someone else suggested too.
              How old is it?
               
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                I got it in October 2012, overwintered it indoors then put it out last April/May time

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                Do you know what species it is?
                If it's a caerulea, then as above, the foliage does tend to get cut down in the cold, but one would expect it to regrow from the base.

                But there are also a lot of hybrids available from garden centres. They tend to be labled as hardy, but in my experience, they aren't as "bomb proof" as caerulea.
                 
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                I have the opposite problem in my side border.. it's growing too much, and doesn't die back in Winter!
                 
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                  Yup, if the are doing well, they can become rampant.
                   
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