Trying hard not to swear...........

Does when you're plastered count?

 

Don't drink tea when i'm plastered Unless its tea wine

 

Our teacher was great, when the sun shone she took us on lots of long country rambles. No need for an army of minders, one adult per 5 children, in those days. No risk assessment forms, we just went out for a walk. Or we had extra long playtimes and spent hours running about in our massive school playing field.

 

Sugar has very little part in a healthy diet and sugar-related illness (specifically diabetes, a very serious condition) is now epidemic. What kind of government would stand by and allow a huge percentage of it's population to risk early death and chronic poor health with the concomitant drain on health services without attempting to remedy the situation? It couldn't be tolerated with smoking and it shouldn't be tolerated with diet-related diseases.

Should a government shrug their shoulders and not bother protecting young children from the woeful effects of the national diet? I don't think so.

A sugar tax? Bring it on. Paying it would be entirely voluntary, after all. That way, if you end up with diabetes in your 40s as a result of a lifetime of over indulgence at least you will have prepaid for your health care.

Doctors see the results of unhealthy diet day in day out in their surgeries. and I think there's a drive towards preventative medicine which makes them preachy. but should we all be left to die of ignorance?

Your wrists and elbows are not bearing very much weight - ask your doctors how your knees and hips are coping.

Your arguments sum up the state of denial the entire country is in regarding diet.

Probably less than 1% of the population will require expensive treatment as a result of adventure sports etc, and it is likely to be one-off treatment. Possibly 50% of the population will require expensive on-going treatment for preventable chronic conditions which are result of smoking, bad diet and inactivity. So the two are not really comparable.

 

The amount of people who tell me off for having one sugar in my herbal teas while they drink a bottle of coke full of twice as much sugar makes me laugh.

 

Something that also concerns me is.. surely people are aware that a big fat juicy cream bun might contain a fair bit of sugar and this fizzy drinks business has been rammed down our throats in the media for long enough so I think the government could do to arrange a 'common sense tax' mind you there's not enough money to be made in that...I just can't grasp that grown human beings have to be 'educated' on how to eat,drink and live in general

 

Don't worry, all this sugar (69p/Kg from Poundstretcher) has now been completely fermented out. Need to get some more.

I'd be checking my pockets and worrying that I'd left something out there that would get all chewed up.

 

GC Word of the week

 

I have some questions/comments/info about this sugar thread etc.
Firstly I would like to agree with @pamsdish. I watched some programmes about quick 15 minute meals, and sat there thinking 'yeah right! I am really likely to have that 'very perishable' goodie in the cupboard'!! Let's see some meals where we can see stuff we are likely to have, or can buy and keep easily. I wonder how healthy they would be though?? Interesting. Now there's a challenge for them. I don't think they live in the everyday persons world.
Secondly, although I think the sugar thing is stupidly out of control (I rarely touch fizzy drinks), I really think that they should finish the job they started first, on saturated fat and especially trans fat! I realise that we eat very little in the uk, but it is still in products on the shelves, with no clear warning in most cases. Described as eating the fat equivalent of wax! There is actually a website that names and shames food companies/products that still contain it. Some are shocking! I think mumsnet have an article on it, and a lot of strong feeling on the subject. It's good to see mums caring about what their kids eat. Good on em!
But, let's flip the coin. Like some of you have already. I had this conversation with a taxi driver earlier. .....eat nice foods which you know aren't good, and risk dying earlier? Or eat sensibly and live longer? Let's use the 65 year old scenario. Live healthy to 75, or eat cakes, biscuits, chocolates, fatty but tasty food, and live to let's say 70 for arguments sake. Just for the purpose of the question.
P. S. If most of the people I know, are normal. Then I don't want to be

 

I don't think there's anything wrong in having the occasional cake, biscuits or even fatty tasty food (love fish & chips) but all in moderation and mixed in with an otherwise healthy diet.

Val

 

Yeah I agree to some extent, otherwise it could be pretty boring. Let's face it, even diet plans (many), allow a treat occasionally. I am meaning everyday though. Let's think about maybe the kind of diet you might imagine a trucker to be on. I have heard people say, yeah, I know I am naughty, but I would rather die younger and happier

 

Article in The Times, today, says that we can go back to a full fat diet and we were wrong to cut out eggs, butter, cheese, real meat etc. Why? Because we replaced them with pasta, bread, sugar and such like which led to us putting on weight. I'm glad I ignored them first time round and continued eating a balanced diet of exactly what I felt like.

 

@NigelJ oh I absolutely love that phrase 'a balanced diet of exactly what I felt like ' that's wicked man.
I did actually see a programme the other morning with that 'saturday kitchen' chef moaning at the hospital chef for using marg, not butter. I get really confused