Recommend me a rose for an arch please.

Very interesting points everyone, thank you for taking the time to reply. Both roses (from an Austin stockist) are doing well though I haven't planted them out yet. Hoping to do so tomorrow. Have been in holiday you see.
Anyway, here's a pic of both. I'm not sure why the ghilslane has such tiny blooms, (3/4cm across) though I have noticed its a rambler not a climber but isn't labelled a miniature?
Anyway, the colour is a lovely mix so it should look good in the aforementioned place.

 

"Good afternoon Armandll my friend we will have to excuse our friend Mondo,I think he is the Billy Graham of the Rose world with his modern Rose Gospel" said Woo

"I would also have problems accepting a " rose purist" view of not buying Modern roses for whatever reason expressed. Modern or Old??? I hope Gardeners will look at all roses and let their hearts decide." Said Armandii

With apologies for this way-beyond-late reply but reply I really must.
Woo seems to be of the opinion that I am a Billy Graham? Really, you couldn't be further off the mark my friend. I object to being preached at and hopefully try not to preach to others and I'm more than happy when proved wrong.
Armandii seems to suggest that I am a "rose purist"? Again I'd have to call that a miss! Personally I grow over 600 roses; on my allotments, in my garden and in my greenhouses. I grow everything from Modern HTs like Isn't She Lovely to historic HTs like Dainty Bess. I grow Old Garden Roses of all types and shapes, many climbers (old and new), ramblers, miniatures and everything in between. I've been doing so for forty years. I've had some success and all too many failures, refusing to believe that a particular rose would not produce a healthy bush for me. I confess to being a bit of a rose junkie but I do grow other things like fuchsia, daffodils, carnations and vegetables. Not well enough, do to having to work full time, much of the work keeping me away from home.
I would never tell anyone not to grow any rose but would definitely advise novice growers to avoid the problem roses on the basis that I've seen too many put off after an intial failure. I can point to many years of standing on Royal National Rose Society Advice bureaux at shows such as Malvern, Harrogate, Hampton Court and Chelsea being asked the same questions by so many dissapointed would-be rose growers.
On these pages I have read stories about buying roses from ebay and other 'non-specialist' suppliers; most telling tales of disappointment. My listing on HelpMeFind suggests that I grow 205 varieties? I think it's more than that!http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=3.4786&tab=2&qn=0&qc=cd
I'm all for people growing as many roses as they can squeeze into their patches. At Malvern and Harrogate shows I regularly do talks and demonstrations, showing people (and giving away many free samples)how to get roses for free by cuttings and budding. That's all roses; modern and old.
My only mantra is; "Grow Roses" and don't get put off when they don't look like the pictures on the label or the box. Newbies will however stand a better chance of success when buying healthy roses from specialist growers. I think Woo stated somewhere else on GC that you only get what you pay for.
Finally to make it perfectly clear; I have no vested interest in any commercial nursery, breeder or grower; when I have mentioned any in previous posts it's because I have bought roses from them and been pleased with what I've bought.
Apologies if this all sounds negative, maybe I'm being over-sensitive? Maybe I should keep my opinions to myself?
Rant over

 

Thank you everyone for your valued contributions. To update both roses are doing fine. The G de F particularly looks like it had always been there and I expect a great show next year. Iceberg is still settling but no issues to report.
Hopefully they'll be a few stems long enough to cut in the summer. Thanks again and here's to the beauty of roses, not quite like any other flower!