brugmansia question

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  1. Victoria

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    Exactly!
    Even the common tomato plant is poisonous!
     
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      If you ate a tipper truck load of apples the amount of arsenic in the pips would be the least of your worries :heehee:
       
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        Quite!!
        Just sums up the hysteria that surrounds this subject.
        One of the main causes of death from Datura poisoning in the States is respiratory failure bought about by medical intervention when the full circumstances of the medical emergency are not known. Something to do with the combination of the sedative administered and the active chemicals from the Datura. I'll try to find the article tomorrow whilst the site is down...........
         
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        Chocolate contains Theobromine. Its poisonous to humans as well as dogs. So don't lick you fingers after eating chocolate. :D
         
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          I ate 4 raw Datura leaves about 25years ago. I didn't realise how daft I was until years after, I was lucky to have had a good although extremely bizarre experience without bad consequences. I certainly would not recommend anyone trying them anyway.
           
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          Hey guys how do you all over winter your brugs will they be ok in a greenhouse bubble wrapped
           
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          Frost-free is fine. They will defoliate, and tips may die back a bit.

          (I presume you mean bubble-wrap the greenhouse and not the plants?)
           
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            Lol yes I will be bubble wrapping the greenhouse
             
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              Do they need any water over winter to keep them going?
               
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              I don't give mine much, and hardly anything at all if/when they defoliate. Depends a bit how much heat you give them (or how warm/mild the autumn is) as to whether they defoliate, or not.
               
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                Mine has already partially defoliated when the temps dropped (lower leaves), although I have kept up watering for now.
                 
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                Hi Bill,

                I don't really know the answer, but I would say try them. If they are homegrown seeds they will be covered by a layer of cork, which I would have thought would keep in moisture and prolonged their viability.

                But it costs nothing to try them. However I would prefer to go for cuttings. Brugmansia, like all plants, won't flower till it has passed through the juvenile stage and become adult. From seed the bottom 5 feet or so are juvenile and only when it forks is the growth above adult and hence able to flower. This means that the flowers from a seed plant are always 5 or more feet above the ground, and may take more than one year to flower. But if you take a cutting from above the fork - the cutting, being a clone, will be adult. And so a cutting can flower from 6 inches high. I have had flowers that were bigger than the plant itself and had to hang over the edge of the pot. And of course a cutting of an adult cutting will always be adult.
                 
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                  Hey guys if your growing from seed guys when do you normally sow then
                   
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