Ebola virus

A woman has been diagnosed with it a day after she flew. What about the rest of the passengers on that flight? Legionnaires disease was transmitted through an air conditioning system I seem to recall. Coming back on a flight and getting a sore throat or a cold is quite a regular occurrence,
Jenny
glad I'm not due to fly anywhere right now...

 

Not sure if it was this paper, but I saw this online earlier
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...spreading-dramatically-increase-airborne.html

 

I think thats what a guy on Sky news said.
It is definitely spread by body fluids though @Lolimac

 

I've somewhere heard ebola compared to HIV as regards catching it.
But I cant remember there ever being a plane load of people being screened/traced because one person on a plane was found to be infected.

Also it seems to kill a lot faster.

I'm not particularly worried for myself at this time, but it does appear to have the potential to get a foothold in the more developed countries.

One thing that I also heard was that in the effected countries many people are suspicious of the doctors/ nurses who are putting their lives on the line to help sort out the problem, and as such not going for help if they think they might be infected.

 

I dont think you can get hiv from saliva though, which I guess reduces the risks considerably.
Good point in your last paragraph

 

According to that article the virus would have to change completely.

Ebola has been compared with HIV/AIDS insofar as it is transmitted via bodily fluids. On that basis, let's get down to basics: was/is HIV/AIDS transmitted via "coughing/spluttering droplets" once it reached the 'northern climes" ??
I think not
Keep a calm (logical) head folks!
Absolutely it is something to give careful thought (precautions) to - but, do not allow fear to be the yard stick!
@Lolimac - as far as can be ascertained, the 21 days does seem to be the yard stick measure. But, you have to ask the question, *which* 21 days? Are we talking the 21 days *since* the media grabbed this and ran with this? Or, are we speaking of the 21 days since it was first diagnosed? And which "21 days" are we (actually!) speaking about here? And, which crops could have been undermined by contact with this virus? The one's when it originally began, or the ones which have been handled/transported since the media grabbed this ball and ran with it?

If is it *not* spread via bodily fluids/contact, how do you *think* it is transmitted? If it is airborne - wouldn't the infection rate be that much higher? (Think: Plague!)

Equally, you argue "bolting the stable door ... ", but, surely, that is how much of medicine works? Keeping it "at source" (bearing in mind the "bodily fluids" argument) would have meant a huge volte face in the culture of the people at the heart of this - cultural change is, at best - slow! - at worst, could take decades (if not centuries!) to induce. Cultural change can viewed with as much suspicion, fear and angst as any virus by the people expected to make those changes!!!

 

Sorry but I'm still not totally convinced and my comments are simply my opinion as I've heard only very small snippets as I try to avoid listening to the media.I'm not unduly worried but it has raised my awareness on the situation.

 

Raised awareness is cool
Opinion is cool
Reading between the lines, defining fact (as far as is possible) vs opinion is: ultra cool

I do get where you are coming from - truly I do - but, I'm merely trying to stretch your thoughts that little bit further

 

I don't think anyone was suggesting it is airborne, just that knowledgeable people suggest that it could, IF it mutates as you say.
I think people may only go into panic mode when its on their doorstep, like @Kandy said. I am certainly nowhere near panic mode.
At the end of the day, whatever happens , happens. Most generations have gone through terrible periods of time.
I just think they need to step things up, to prevent what the article called 'a nightmare scenario'
link removed by poster, due to possible link with virus, but not ebola

 

Sorry NG - tried your link - despite my distrust of "pop-ups" but, my anti-virus software doesn't rate it (much!) = not entirely reliable content = endorses my distrust of "pop-ups" )

Who are the "they" you refer to? In your context? (or, should that read: WHO are they? Or even: WHO *are* they? )

When speaking about "knowledgeable people": who are they? What is their motivation? What do they have to gain from their input? What is their research base? Is it valid/viable? Or is it simply: because I can?

Bare in mind that a whole generation of children have been denied the MMR vaccine based purely on the research of one man ... and *his* "research" base was founded on just 12 cases! Hardly proportional representation!

 

Well I wasn't going to list them all, so it was what is called a sweeping general statement referring to the medical professionals/researchers/WHO
The conversation is complex enough without adding to it
Lets face it, they all have different opinions, as do we on here

 

They do: except, unlike many on here, some are more "qualified" than others
On here, presenting a point of view based on opinion (formulated on media representation alone) won't make any dent on popular opinion or have any affect on what the UK (or the World) does in this given scenario.
Like each person on this forum (and countless others) I have an opinion. It is my own. . However, I am formulating my thoughts based on NOT taking "opinions" on face value e.g. someone posting their knee jerk reactions on a forum open to all and sundry (no offense) , but looking deeper: what is that person basing their opinion on? What is their background? How rigorous is their research? What is their study base? What's in it for them? What is their experience of the issue? How limited is their study base? How valid is their argument in light of current reality?

The conversation isn't at all complex *if* it is founded on research with facts to back up the data presented

So, if you would like to list the medical professionals, researchers and specific WHO representatives you are drawing "sweeping statements" from that suggest a blood borne virus would mutate into an airborne virus, we could begin a debate on that

 

Well thats a thread killer if ever there was one! With so many people, with so many opinions/research, then what you are asking for is impossible.
We can only talk about what we hear, in the same way that scientists/doctors work on what they know. Be it credible or not.
You have only reiterated what I said, we all have our own opinions.
If the conversation isn't complex if based on fact, then its end of conversation, because if 'they' can't agree between them, then how can we continue to discuss it?

 

Really?

 

In 'my' opinion? yes
I just hope everyone else who posts states what is fact, or god help em