The Mayor of Calais

Certainly not the weather or great standard of living is it
You don't see many families trying to jump on the back of lorries at Calais, seems to be single males
Fair enough if they have come from a war torn country and your family is in constant danger them asylum could be granted
I see your point clueless about benefits but it's not that bothers me, Ive heard its like getting blood from a stone but it's the amount of work that is available/given to these illegal immigrants.
Take around here for instance the amount of hand car washes, there must be 15 in a 2 mile radius with around 10 to 15 working in each.

 

The car washes around here are mostly manned by East Europeans, so my guess is they are EU citizens, we cant stop them coming here.
I actually use them, beats cleaning the car myself and I always give them a couple of quid extra.

I'm not thinking the Calais bunch fit in to that category, they are all non EU.

 

You do realise, that working in a car wash is classed as Self Employed, and as such you are instantly given full benefits, WTC HB, and housed free, you can then claim and send home Child Benefit and CTC the full amount without the children been seen !
The ones I dealt with usually had on average seven children back home in whatever land
Then the good bergers of the town open up the food banks for them to eat free, which allows them enough pocket money to sit in large groups in the street drinking strong larger

(They are supposed to only get two visits to a food bank whilst they get settled, the good people say oh you can not let them starve, and dish up daily)

Why else would they pass through MALTA, ITALY, GERMANY, FRANCE, Or go to any EU country, to be safe in the good old UK

Then we have the EU members flooding here for the same reason

Look at it this way, You have your own little house (UK) You have a wife and three children (Citizens) Your work income (GDP)
Suddenly two adults and one child turn up and expect YOU to provide a bedroom, food, and pocket money for life, baths and toilet, wear and tear of your property
You would not be able to manage very long

Jack McH

 

So, WHAT should be done about it???

 

Go on strike like the French

 

I don't doubt this, for a number of reasons. One reason being that the media has a job to do. They have to make interesting stories. Nobody will pay them for a boring story. So you ask a load, then you carefully pick out the responses most likely to make for interesting reading/listening.

Then there's the last bit of what I quoted from your post. They want to live in Britain because we treat them better than most other countries. That in itself doesn't automatically mean they are coming to sponge (some might be, but that statement doesn't say that). It says as I was saying earlier, that having left their home, they want to get to somewhere where they'll be ok. If Britain has a reputation for being a good place, I think that's a good thing surely? Would it be better if Britain was internationalised perceived to be a hell hole? Given how many wars we've meddled in recently, would it be better if Britain was perceived to be inherently hostile?

Of course some illegal immigrants will be coming to abuse the system. There are good and bad among all groups of folks. What I was objecting to, and some of the posts in this thread demonstrate my point so very well for me, is the way we tar them all with the same brush. The term 'illegal immigrant' has become synonymous with 'worthless subhuman scum'. When people rant about closing the boarders to illegal immigrants, too often they are not even interesting in differentiating between the illegal immigrant family that have risked their lives to flee from war and persecution, and just want to get their young children to somewhere there is a chance they will be fed and sheltered and not beaten up every day for having the wrong skin colour or accent, or the illegal immigrant who just thinks life would be easier if they come to milk our system.

Discussing a real problem of illegal immigration is fine. Nobody can (and nobody should) object to that, but always, without exception, these discussions rapidly degenerate into broad sweeping statements with absolutely no consideration that first and foremost, an immigrant, illegal or otherwise, is an actual human person.

 

Clue, these people have travelled through two maybe three or more safe countries before ending up in Calais.
It they were just wanting to find a safe haven they could have stopped as soon as they entered Europe or even one or two N. African countries.
They just want to reach the UK, full stop.

Because we look after them better, and the chances of being thrown out, once in, are pretty remote.
If we should decide to deport them after many years of dragging it through the courts, they can always plead they have a cat that is totally dependant on them, or better still get some dodgy priest to marry them to and EU citizen on the quiet.

If they can father a kid or two over here then they have it made.

 

It's not 'years through the courts' at all, I knew one small family who were here less than 2 months. Officials took them to a deportation centre at short notice and that was it, they were gone a couple of days later.

I'm not going to contribute any further to this thread, but I'm interested to know where you get your information from.

Edited to add: any marriages to britsh citizens are very heavily scrutinised (friend married a South African).

 

That sounds like it was handled very well then Charlie.

Only one family?

My information comes from looking around my town centre, only about 50 /50 English now spoken in the streets.

Would you deny that those at Calais have passed through more than one safe country before ending up there?

 

I bet you read the daily mail as well. Those poor swans eh?

 

Swans?
Not read the Mail or Express for years.
I dont actually read any newspapers not even the Sun.

 

OK, let's assume they are the salt of the earth lovely people, how many more are we going to take then????? there are plenty more where they came from, one little tiny island, why should our way of life be compromised to accommodate foreigners? we are FULL UP end of!!!!

 

Ok. If we stop taking them. We should then stop going to live in other countries. How far does it go? Do we stop giving aid when it is needed? Do we stop foreigners coming here for holidays in case they decide to stay? Do we stop going abroad ourselves? Sounds a bit silly, I know but just where does it end?

 

Just to avoid confusion, please could you clarify what is our way of life please?

 

But how many more can we take? regardless of their nationality, it is just ridiculous to keep letting immigrants in when we have so little space.