Food Statistics 2013

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    I don't waste anything. :blue thumb:

    According to the statistics, most catering establishments don't waste anywhere near the amount the public do - and fast food establishments waste the least.
     
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    So where do they get this waste % figure from ? How do they gather the data ?
    Now come to think of it my sister in law , who is German and likes to do everything by the book ,does discard food on the sell by date . When we pulled her up about this she asked well how do you know when the food is off ? That's called projectile vomitting I said . She could not see the funny side of that :dunno:
     
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    No alcohol gets wasted in our house. I simply can't understand how it could, as it doesn't go off while the can or bottle is sealed, and once opened, its gone with the hour:)

    This is slightly alarming. Does this mean that the animals we eat are chock full of sugar, aspartame, and E numbers?

    d) Pure laziness. I suspect some people buy nice fresh food with the best intentions, but then realise its going to take a whopping 15 minutes out of their life to prepare it, and they will actually have to look for a knife and a chopping board which they know is there somewhere because someone bought them it as a house warming gift.

    Its very plausible. I think gardeners (on here or not) have a certain mindset to be frugal and resourceful, so on here, the average might be less than 20%, but I know people who waste much more than that. In fact I have a young student friend who recently posted on Facebook about his freezer full of food that he was so proud of, until he realised it takes several hours to defrost stuff, so its just not convenient, and then once he's defrosted it, according to the packed it he can't re-freeze whatever he didn't use.

    But above all, I think there is a major cultural change that has lead to a massive increase in food waste. When I was a kid, the main meal was a major family event. It featured at the very least all of our immediate family unit, plus my grandad. That was every day. Some days it would be a fair few more. Lets say you're doing a full dinner. Meat and veg and all the trimmings. If you're on your own for dinner, you're not going to cut a little bit of cabbage off, and half a carrot, and half a parsnip, roast a few slices of beef, etc etc. If you did, all those half used veg would been on a very limited timespan to be used up before going limp. If you're feeding an entire family, then between you all you'll most likely use many vegs in full, so no danger of chopped open veg going to waste.
     
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      Why not? :scratch:

      There's just the two of us and, nowadays, Mrs S is mostly veggie. This doesn't stop me from roasting a small piece of beef. A small piece of rib of beef, cooked for 20 minutes, is really nice and if there's anything left over it goes in a sandwich for lunch the next day.

      With the vegetables, I quite often use just part of each and the rest gets used up whilst it's still fresh. Meal planning is the answer and is extremely easy. Last night's chicken stir fry (Mrs S doesn't mind some chicken but is not keen on red meats) used half a carrot, half a courgette, some of a pack of mangetout, some of a pack of baby corn etc. Tonight's meal will include a veggie risotto that will use the rest of the fresh veg that is waiting to fulfil its destiny.

      Most vegetables, once some has been cut away, will last a few days (onions are an exception and should not be kept). Soups can be with unused veg if they're not planned into another meal.

      We don't waste any food at all. Peelings go on the compost and the minimal amount of meats that I don't eat (fat, gristle etc.) is enjoyed by Sarafi the cat from four doors away or the magpies if he hasn't eaten it.

      As Jiffy said, recycled food waste (including rubbish) that is not put into compost or landfill is mainly used as pig feed, although I don't think there's much residual chemicals in what they absorb. As I don't eat pig it's not too much of concern to me. Feed for other meat animals have added chemicals - supposedly to keep them healthy.

      There's a limit to how much you are going to worry over additives to feed or the chemicals that go onto crops. People can always go 'organic' to reduce exposure. At least my home grown fruit and veg are 'organic'.
       
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        Since the lads went to Uni, coupled with Mr "M"'s shifts, there are a good number of times that I only have myself to please when it comes to dinner. You are quite right on the one hand, I would only need two slices of beef, two roast potatoes, one Yorkshire pudding and a handful of vegetables. It is not economical to do that just for myself, but then I don't need to because: a cooked joint can be sliced/cubed and frozen (with or without gravy) as can roast potatoes, Yorkshire puddings - vegetables cooked/raw can be used in soups/stocks/stir fry/curries/casseroles (casseroles constructed from defrosted cubed roast meat). I can take out a couple of slices of roast meat, couple of potatoes and a Yorkshire pudding and I'm well away! The only difference is, for me a roast meal is designed as a meal to be shared with others. But it works for when it is just Mr "M" and I too.

        Did your student friend invest in ready meals or frozen raw food? Defrosted raw meat which is then cooked *can* be frozen. So, if your student friend bought a bag of say chicken thighs and defrosts a couple to make a meal and then has leftovers, those cooked leftovers can be frozen.
         
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          Only a couple of roast potatoes!!!! :hate-shocked: I need more than that! :heehee:
           
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            I think he bought loads of fresh stuff. You and I know its not that difficult, but we're talking about a lad who went straight from living with parents to sharing a house (ie more money than sense, enough to live off takeaways), and now he's finally got some proper independence, having bought a flat all of his own, he just hasn't had the experience. I did try to give him some tips, but sometimes I'm afraid you just have to let people learn from experience. He'll start to figure it out, and when he does, I'll give him little tips to help him find his way. Of course there is a chance that he will find himself in a well paid job, maybe settled down with a nice young lady who is also paid a good salary, all before he's had to learn these lessons, in which cases he'll be on takeaways again before he's learnt the ropes. I suspect this happens to a lot of younger folk, hence the crazy food waste stats.
             
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              ... one more reason why I taught mine how to cook some basic nosh before they left our nest :heehee:
               
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                And if you came to dinner ... you would get more than that!
                *hands Shy Knee the tea towel*
                 
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                I'm always happy to wash up. :blue thumb: :)
                 
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                  Well in that case: have as many roasties as you like :thumbsup:
                   
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                    I don't think that they sell enough for that! :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                     
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