Fertilising winter / early spring flowerers?

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  1. JackJJW

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    I was wondering, what's the best thing to do with plants that flower and grow Dec - Mar. E.g. Hellebore, Cyclamen and Clematis early flowers.

    Is it basically too late to fertilise them now and instead concentrate on during the summer periods to build up reserves?
     
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    I can't help you with the Hellebore or Cyclamen Jack but I feed my early and only Clematis just as it starts to bud up. @ARMANDII is your man for Clematis info though. :)
     
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      I've got several Winter and early Spring flowering Clematis and I never feed them until they are forming buds and only feed them weak Tomato Feed at that time. But to the fact that I have around 115 or more different Clematis I then feed during the Spring and Summer with general purpose liquid feed one week and Tomato Feed the next..........seems to work. I have a Trellis entrance to the garden which on on either side of it around 20-25 Clematis of Spring/Summer flowering different varieties and those get fed with Miracle Grow fortnightly from Spring onwards.
      If you want to feed Hellebores, Cyclamen, then I would use low nitrogen based feeds now but, as you said, you could feed them during the early Summer to build up reserves.:dunno::coffee:
       
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        115 Clematis :wow: OK, then you are definitely the expert!! :love30: I'm going increase my collection by 200% this summer... to three :snork:

        My one has just started budding up, so I'll start giving that a weak tomato feed each week now. It really struggled last year because I massively under fertilised it (I think), as I was giving it a feed every 2 - 3 weeks. I only read last week you're meant to feed them at least once a week if not more!

        I might ask for some advice on the ones I should go for another time if you don't mind :D
         
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          Definitely not, Jack. I lost a fair few Clematis before I started to understand what they liked and how to keep them for more than a year!! I'm an impulse buyer, like a lot of the Gang, but I do have a liking for Clematis so if I come across one I like. and haven't got. then I'll buy it but I do have to like it!!!

          There are many "expert" opinions out there, Jack, but I can only tell you what has worked for me over the years.:dunno::snork:

          Do you know it's variety, Jack?

          You're more than welcome:coffee::snork:
           
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            It's Clematis cartmanii 'Avalanche'. The flowers last year were lovely, if a bit snail eaten. But most of the leaves quickly developed black and brown scorched edges. I thought it might be Clematis wilt but I now suspect it's just potassium deficiency.


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            ClematiS X cartmanii hort "Avalanche"
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            Yep, that's a nice one, Jack. Evergreen Clematis can also be subject to sun scorch and also drop a few leaves but evergreens will do that. Wilt is more rampant in the large flowered hybrid Clematis and current thought is that the way Clematis are cultivated can cause Wilt.
            I've found first planting them deeply and keeping the roots moist for a month or two gives them a good chance of establishing. They say that cutting back a Clematis suffering from Wilt to the ground will help but I've found it's no guarantee.:dunno::snork:
             
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              Thanks Armandii. I do really like this Clematis because it has interesting foliage and the flowers are just lovely and fresh in early spring. I should say, mine is also in a large pot, which it's been in for the last two years. I have added fresh compost to the top. Hopefully I can revive it a bit, thanks for your advice :)
               
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